Another two weeks before the lockout is over?

[ToxSocks]

I'm over this shit now....

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...-thats-a-sham/

Herald columnist Ron Borges from Atlanta: The union to recertify in a day? That’s a “sham”
Herald columnist Ron Borges is in Atlanta for the much-ballyhooed owners meetings where so many expect a settlement and a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Some expect it today.

In Borges’ view? Chill out a bit.

Here is the explanatory report he just filed:

By Ron Borges
ATLANTA – Once again, NFL owners want it both ways.

When the NFLPA tried to decertify the owners’ argument was that it couldn’t be done with by a simple snap of the union’s fingers. Time had to pass, they argued, or it was all “a sham,” a point they somehow won in front of the most conservative Federal appeals court in the country.

Now they are insisting that the NFLPA settle two multi-million dollar lawsuits, approve a new 10-year CBA that cuts their pay by hundreds of millions of dollars and recertify their union in a day.


The NFLPA has basically said they may be able to do the first two but recertification will take at least two weeks. The owners, as they always seem to be except when lining their pockets, are outraged and demanding a “global settlement’’ be completed today.

Now there’s “a sham,” because nearly 1,000 recertification cards have to be signed and returned, approving recertification before the union can re-form. And that takes a lot longer than 24 hours, according to the union.

With that as the latest background in what has become a far longer slog toward a settlement of the 132-day and counting lockout than either side expected, the owners are meeting in Atlanta poised to vote on approval of a deal with the players that they don’t yet have with the players.

“It’s an ongoing thing,’’ Indianapolis Colts’ owner Jimmy Irsay said. “Everyone is pushing in that direction but it’s never done until it’s done. We are hoping to get back to the business of football.

“You can only control what you can control. We’re going to try and do our part today getting something approved.’’

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith is trying to corral angry plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL case and his own Executive Committee and team player reps to the point where he can get a majority to approve both the settlement and the 10-year CBA framework presently on the table.

He has yet been unable to do that which is why no vote was taken on Wednesday even though many felt it was some sort of fait accompli. Let me tell you something, at this point there is no fait accom-anything, although at some point there will be an NFL season.

Just not anywhere as quickly as fans hoped and the two sides thought possible. As NFLPA president Kevin Mawea ominously said Wednesday the players are not on a July 21 deadline for anything.

So the owners are expected to approve a deal they don’t yet have sometime today while now arguing that a union is a great thing for their business even though the players don’t have one any more.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

if smith was blindsided why isnt he screaming that goodell is a liar at the top of his lungs?
that would save some face on the P.R. side IMO

And that would help the situation how? If he was smart he'd Z through it and sign it

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

No shit. I was watching the NFL Network at lunch and they were talking about how wearing shells now might be considered a padded practice. JFC the players have gone soft literally.

bbbbbbuttttt we want the players to win these negotiations /manyaCPdumbass

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Laz

bbbbbbuttttt we want the players to win these negotiations /manyaCPdumbass

Yeah, because the owners gave a shit about any of that.

Here's the list of things the owners cared about.

1. Money

[Dayze]

I wonder what effect it' will have on tackling int he NFL. Tackling, for the most part, is already dog poo in the NFL.

[dirk digler]

Time for the players to start wearing skirts

In the preseason, veterans can report no earlier than 15 days prior to his team's first game, with a first day limited to physicals and meetings, and no pads or contact in the second and third day of camp, and, as has been outlined elsewhere, only one padded practice per day. Including walk-throughs, players cannot be on the field more than four hours a day.

During the regular season, there can only be 14 padded practices for the entirety of the season, 11 of those sessions must be held in the first 11 weeks and teams can hold no more than two padded practices a week. One padded practice per week is allowed in the postseason and all padded practices are limited to three hours max. Also, a bye week must include at least four consecutive days off during the bye week, including Saturday.

[KCrockaholic]

These players are little ****ing girls. Todd Haley won't be a fan of any of this shit.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Time for the players to start wearing skirts

Toddy Haley must be on his heart meds right now. I'd hate to be around him when Scott broke the news.

If Chiefs players aren't giving 200% during practice, Haley will likely flip on them.

[-King-]

What did they reduce the padded practices from? I don't think they had any more than 3 per week any given time so I don't think that's significant.

[Mr. Laz]

veterans can report no earlier than 15 days prior to his team's first game,

wow ... can you imagine how many players are going to have muscle strains/pulls when the season starts.

[keg in kc]

So I walk out of Captain America, turn on the radio, and Nick Wright is bitching about Kevin Kietzman, while Kevin Kietzman is interviewing Rudy Niswanger who's actually giving some interesting insight into the player perspective (basically that everything was overblown last night).

Not that I'm a big fan of 810, but how in the world can anybody listen to 610. Useless.

[Dayze]

I'd run their butts off at camp.

"welcome to the afternoon non-padded practice! We'll be running for the next 3 hours. Enjoy"! / Haley

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

These players are little ****ing girls. Todd Haley won't be a fan of any of this shit.

I bet the players end up having to play more in preseason games to make up for lack of practice.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

So I walk out of Captain America, turn on the radio, and Nick Wright is bitching about Kevin Kietzman, while Kevin Kietzman is interviewing Rudy Niswanger who's actually giving some interesting insight into the player perspective (basically that everything was overblown last night).

Not that I'm a big fan of 810, but how in the world can anybody listen to 610. Useless.

Why?

Wright is like the "gangsta" at the end of Eight Mile. Clarence's parents have a real good marriage...

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by -King-

What did they reduce the padded practices from? I don't think they had any more than 3 per week any given time so I don't think that's significant.

I don't believe there was any restriction or very minimal in regards to training camp and regular season practices. It was up to the coach.

Now in TC veterans can't wear pads and have no contact for 3 days and can't be on the field over 4 hrs for the entire day. Shit DV used to hold 3 hour padded practices twice a day.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Laz

I bet the players end up having to play more in preseason games to make up for lack of practice.

Very Good point and I hope he does. I wanna see the back ups but I hope Haley is innovative enough to figure out a way to give his team a conditioning advantage.