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Old 07-23-2011, 04:01 PM   #1
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I don't think it's misunderstood. I just question why we'd trade a young, terrific corner like Carr for an elite corner like Asomugha who would cost twice as much and is the wrong side of 30. How many productive years do you expect to get out of Asomugha? And given that he's probably set to decline, whereas Carr still has upside, how long before the two start playing at the same level? My guess is in about 1-2 years.

This is a move you make if you're convinced you have 2-3 years to win a Super Bowl.
No, it's not.

It's improving the current roster while adding a ****ing second round pick to help bolster the teams future.

I'm not talking about a straight up player for player trade here.

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What's homeristic about it? We're talking about trading away a young corner with maybe 7-10 years in him for an expensive corner who maybe has 2-3 productive years left in him.

Keep the young guy for cheaper. Use those savings to pick up a different free agent, at a position where we actually need help.
how about what we could get for the draft pick?

A second rounder is a premium pick.

A move such as this improves the present and future of this team.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:08 PM   #2
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No, it's not.

It's improving the current roster while adding a ****ing second round pick to help bolster the teams future.

I'm not talking about a straight up player for player trade here.

JFC

how about what we could get for the draft pick?

A second rounder is a premium pick.

A move such as this improves the present and future of this team.
The real question is why would he sign him to trade him?
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Old 07-23-2011, 07:08 PM   #3
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No, it's not.

It's improving the current roster while adding a ****ing second round pick to help bolster the teams future.

I'm not talking about a straight up player for player trade here.

JFC
It's improving the current roster. Yes. But you're making an enormous leap of faith that the second round pick bolsters the future roster. ENORMOUS. In 5-8 years, Carr will still be in the league. But Asomugah will probably be on a rapid decline. Hell, could very easily happen in 2-3 years. Corners decline very quickly after 30.

So basically, 5 years from now, you're expecting that 2nd round pick to be better than Carr. That's probably not going to happen. So the Chiefs get much better the next 1-3 years, and likely get a lot worse in years 4-6. The Chiefs are not in the position to make that kind of a 1-3 "we have to win it now at all costs" commitment.

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how about what we could get for the draft pick?

A second rounder is a premium pick.

A move such as this improves the present and future of this team.
Why do people treat second rounders like they're lottery picks? A second rounder is a good pick. But...Carr is probably going to be in the league 5 years longer than Asomugah. So if that's the case, your question becomes... would you rather have Carr or a future second round pick for those 5 years? I'm gonna go with Carr. No doubt in my mind.

In 5 years, when Carr is shutting down Chiefs' receivers twice a season as a Raider, I'm sure we're going to be really happy we traded away our future for a short-term improvement and a second rounder.
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