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Old 07-24-2011, 08:08 AM   #1
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Count me in the category of not liking the Moeaki pick when it happened last year. I loved watching the dude in college, but his injury history was the part that I hated.

I'll be anxious to see how many games Tony plays this year. If it's all 16, then I agree 100% with the OP about the high level of greatness we can expect from Moeaki for years to come
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:12 AM   #2
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I thought there were 17 TE's better or equal to him in the draft last year?
I don't know about 17 TEs that were equal to or better, but there were a number of good TEs that made the trade up to get Moeaki seem kind of stupid.

And the next TE that was taken put up numbers similar to Moeaki's.

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Count me in the category of not liking the Moeaki pick when it happened last year. I loved watching the dude in college, but his injury history was the part that I hated.

I'll be anxious to see how many games Tony plays this year. If it's all 16, then I agree 100% with the OP about the high level of greatness we can expect from Moeaki for years to come
The injury history was my primary concern, as well, and it seemed to be the primary concern for most that had an issue with trading up to select Moeaki.

Given the talent pool at TE in the draft and his injury history, it seemed a huge risk.
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:02 AM   #3
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I don't know about 17 TEs that were equal to or better, but there were a number of good TEs that made the trade up to get Moeaki seem kind of stupid.

And the next TE that was taken put up numbers similar to Moeaki's.



The injury history was my primary concern, as well, and it seemed to be the primary concern for most that had an issue with trading up to select Moeaki.

Given the talent pool at TE in the draft and his injury history, it seemed a huge risk.
The injury concerns were a huge factor. No question. It's why I knew I could wait till the comp 5th round to take him in the CP mock (for Atlanta, to learn from Tony G first hand)

I showed over and over though, how his injuries were flukes of broken bones and how those type of injuries dont cause lingering issues. Once a bone is healed, it's as strong as ever...sometimes bones heal to be stronger than before.

I am obviously a big Hawkeye fan.

No question.

I honestly don't think it has taken from my objectivity, though.

In the 2010 draft, I was high on Angerer and Moeaki and bother were "re-drafted" by rich gosslein as first rounders.

Fact is, the only Hawkeye player I have been real far off on my evaluation of how he transitions to the NFL (and about what round he will go in) in all my time on message boards was Mitch King.

That kid could have been a stud if he would have kept his nose clean.
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:10 AM   #4
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The injury concerns were a huge factor. No question. It's why I knew I could wait till the comp 5th round to take him in the CP mock (for Atlanta, to learn from Tony G first hand)

I showed over and over though, how his injuries were flukes of broken bones and how those type of injuries dont cause lingering issues. Once a bone is healed, it's as strong as ever...sometimes bones heal to be stronger than before.

I am obviously a big Hawkeye fan.

No question.

I honestly don't think it has taken from my objectivity, though.

In the 2010 draft, I was high on Angerer and Moeaki and bother were "re-drafted" by rich gosslein as first rounders.

Fact is, the only Hawkeye player I have been real far off on my evaluation of how he transitions to the NFL (and about what round he will go in) in all my time on message boards was Mitch King.

That kid could have been a stud if he would have kept his nose clean.
It seems pointless to revisit this debate now, but the concern wasn't that he would reinjure prvious injuries, but that he had a history of being brittle.

Some people just can't seem to stay healthy for vorious reasons, and his seemed to be brittleness.

It may turn out that was simply bad luck, but until he gets through more than one season relatively unscathed, it remains a concern.
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:14 AM   #5
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It seems pointless to revisit this debate now, but the concern wasn't that he would reinjure prvious injuries, but that he had a history of being brittle.

Some people just can't seem to stay healthy for vorious reasons, and his seemed to be brittleness.

It may turn out that was simply bad luck, but until he gets through more than one season relatively unscathed, it remains a concern.
This.

There's never been a debate about his talent. Only about his ability to stay healthy.

Were there people that were less than thrilled with the pick? Sure.

But they were almost universally "less than thrilled" because of the injury history, and the thought that we didn't need to trade up to take him.

He'll be an important part of this team for the next 5-10 years - IF he can stay healthy.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:10 AM   #6
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The injury concerns were a huge factor. No question. It's why I knew I could wait till the comp 5th round to take him in the CP mock (for Atlanta, to learn from Tony G first hand)

I showed over and over though, how his injuries were flukes of broken bones and how those type of injuries dont cause lingering issues. Once a bone is healed, it's as strong as ever...sometimes bones heal to be stronger than before.

I am obviously a big Hawkeye fan.

No question.

I honestly don't think it has taken from my objectivity, though.

In the 2010 draft, I was high on Angerer and Moeaki and bother were "re-drafted" by rich gosslein as first rounders.

Fact is, the only Hawkeye player I have been real far off on my evaluation of how he transitions to the NFL (and about what round he will go in) in all my time on message boards was Mitch King.

That kid could have been a stud if he would have kept his nose clean.
What did you think of Robert Gallery when he was drafted?
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:00 PM   #7
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What did you think of Robert Gallery when he was drafted?
I thought he would have been drafted around 10-15 and that he would be a solid left tackle, but was a bit overhyped.

Honestly though, I wasn't as informed about Iowa players back then as I am now.

I know a few people within the program and one really prominent one that answers a lot of my questions. Lots of stuff I can't share, but I have also shared plenty of stuff as well...the stuff that's ok'd.
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:18 PM   #8
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I thought he would have been drafted around 10-15 and that he would be a solid left tackle, but was a bit overhyped.

Honestly though, I wasn't as informed about Iowa players back then as I am now.

I know a few people within the program and one really prominent one that answers a lot of my questions. Lots of stuff I can't share, but I have also shared plenty of stuff as well...the stuff that's ok'd.
You should really find it in your heart to share via PM.
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