This is not a thread in defense of Matt Cassel, but..

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by shocked

That's not how you build a quality team. How many high priced FAs did Pioli grab in NE? His FA were moderate signings or guys off the scrap heap.

How many does PIT get? Indy?

Gaither, Gregg, and Breston aren't bad moves.

Stop pissing and moaning based on one game.

Yea, lets continue to do it the herm way....Most of it has to do with the coaching.

Pit was a solid program, and has been for a while, as are both the colts and patriots. They are the clear exception to the norm.

The fact is, we need proven free agents.

If we did it you way during the vermiel years, we would have never landed Roaf, Holmes, Green, etc. We need to be more active during the free agency period than we have been.

Dont get me wrong, the draft is important, but you dont build championship caliber teams solely through the draft.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Yea, lets continue to do it the herm way....Most of it has to do with the coaching.

Pit was a solid program, and has been for a while, as are both the colts and patriots. They are the clear exception to the norm.

The fact is, we need proven free agents.

If we did it you way during the vermiel years, we would have never landed Roaf, Holmes, Green, etc. We need to be more active during the free agency period than we have been.

Dont get me wrong, the draft is important, but you dont build championship caliber teams solely through the draft.

Go back and look at the SB winners for the last 10 or 15 years.

All of those teams were built through the draft, with very little free agent impact.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by milkman

Go back and look at the SB winners for the last 10 or 15 years.

All of those teams were built through the draft, with very little free agent impact.

again, look at the FO's and coaching staffs...also drafting a caliber player like manning, where it actually turns out well, doesnt happen often. A lot of those teams got lucky...

[shocked]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

again, look at the FO's and coaching staffs...also drafting a caliber player like manning, where it actually turns out well, doesnt happen often. A lot of those teams got lucky...

Awesome. So name me the teams that didn't get "lucky" and built a quality franchise with High Priced FAs?

You can't.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by shocked

Awesome. So name me the teams that didn't get "lucky" and built a quality franchise with High Priced FAs?

You can't.

look here phaggot, I never said that teams should go strictly free agency while ****ing away with the draft.

The fact is, drafting alone, in our current state and our unique situation..is not enough for this team... ya dirty bitch.

[shocked]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

look here phaggot, I never said that teams should go strictly free agency while ****ing away with the draft.

The fact is, drafting alone, in our current state and our unique situation..is not enough for this team... ya dirty bitch.

Except the Chiefs havent just drafted.

Gaither, Breston, Gregg, and McClain. Good players. Nott to high priced.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by shocked

Except the Chiefs havent just drafted.

Gaither, Breston, Gregg, and McClain. Good players. Nott to high priced.

I agree. However, gaither was injured, gregg is old, and mcclain is meh.

[shocked]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Yea, lets continue to do it the herm way....Most of it has to do with the coaching.

Pit was a solid program, and has been for a while, as are both the colts and patriots. They are the clear exception to the norm.

The fact is, we need proven free agents.

If we did it you way during the vermiel years, we would have never landed Roaf, Holmes, Green, etc. We need to be more active during the free agency period than we have been.

Dont get me wrong, the draft is important, but you dont build championship caliber teams solely through the draft.

I love how your only knowledge of football comes ONLY from the Chiefs.

I also love how you cannot process how all FAs are NOT necessarily high priced.

Also, NE, PIT, and Indy are the *exception* to the rule? LOL. They *are* the rule. Name me three other teams that have built a more solid franchise? You can't. Name the ones who did it with HIGH PRICED FAs too. Hell, name me one team that did it the Dan Snider way.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by shocked

I love how your only knowledge of football comes ONLY from the Chiefs.

derp herp we're on a chiefs forum...

I also love how you cannot process how all FAs are NOT necessarily high priced.

Also, NE, PIT, and Indy are the *exception* to the rule? LOL. They *are* the rule. Name me three other teams that have built a more solid franchise? You can't. Name the ones who did it with HIGH PRICED FAs too. Hell, name me one team that did it the Dan Snider way.

all assumptions of things I never said. And ive already addressed the part where coaching plays the ultimate role.

[shocked]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

derp herp we're on a chiefs forum...

Hey dumbass, the Chiefs aren't the only team in the NFL. If your only understanding of football comes solely from what happens here -- then you simply do not follow football.

Derp.

all assumptions of things I never said. And ive already addressed the part where coaching plays the ultimate role.

Then wtf *are* you saying? Cause it sounds like you want high priced FAs. Sorry, but that won't build you a quality franchise.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by shocked

Hey dumbass, the Chiefs aren't the only team in the NFL. If your only understanding of football comes solely from what happens here -- then you simply do not follow football.

Derp.

You're right, im sorry...I wont make the mistake of discussing anything chiefs related while posting on a chiefs forum

lets be real tea, you dont make up the rules here. Ill discuss whatever the **** I feel like. Ill even call you a goddamned reerun just for the hell of it too. you mad?

Then wtf *are* you saying? Cause it sounds like you want high priced FAs. Sorry, but that won't build you a quality franchise.

Youre so lost. I pointed out a unique situation during the vermiel era in a subsequent post..reading comprehension most suck for you.

[shocked]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

You're right, im sorry...I wont make the mistake of discussing anything chiefs related while posting on a chiefs forum

Recognizing that the Chiefs are 1/32 franchises in the NFL =/= never taking about the Chiefs

...sort of like how...

Not pursuing high priced Free Agents =/= not signing any Free Agents

Youre so lost. I pointed out a unique situation during the vermiel era in a subsequent post..reading comprehension most suck for you.

How old are you?

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by shocked

Recognizing that the Chiefs are 1/32 franchises in the NFL =/= never taking about the Chiefs

This is a really bizarre sequence of posts by you, where you falsely presume a position of which I never stated. try harder...