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Old 09-18-2011, 08:03 PM   #1
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Haley probably would have eventually been hired as another team, but I don't think that he would have been hired by a team without tree connections, as I don't think that he has a personality necessary to be a HC for guys making millions.
Let's not go overboard here. Haley was a coveted coach and I think it's a little convenient to say this team gave up because Haley is a dick. Let's not use the convenient argument that Haley was only hired because of "the tree."

Haley's been effective at coaching some areas, and he's made a few mistakes here and there. But you can only coach what you have on the field. And when you take away Moeaki and Berry, this team is average at best. When you take away Moeaki, Berry, and Charles... this team is downright ugly.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:06 PM   #2
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Let's not go overboard here. Haley was a coveted coach and I think it's a little convenient to say this team gave up because Haley is a dick. Let's not use the convenient argument that Haley was only hired because of "the tree."

Haley's been effective at coaching some areas, and he's made a few mistakes here and there. But you can only coach what you have on the field. And when you take away Moeaki and Berry, this team is average at best. When you take away Moeaki, Berry, and Charles... this team is downright ugly.
You could have summed all that up by just saying Matt Cassel sucks.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:18 PM   #3
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You could have summed all that up by just saying Matt Cassel sucks.
It's a little of that, and a little of just shitty luck striking at the wrong time.

What makes me more okay with the timing of all this is t hat clearly we're not getting to the Super Bowl with Matt Cassel. And if there was ever a year for the Chiefs to be in the QB sweepstakes, this is the year.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:20 PM   #4
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It's a little of that, and a little of just shitty luck striking at the wrong time.

What makes me more okay with the timing of all this is t hat clearly we're not getting to the Super Bowl with Matt Cassel. And if there was ever a year for the Chiefs to be in the QB sweepstakes, this is the year.
Yep. I'm just terrified Pioli will pass on Luck.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:22 PM   #5
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Yep. I'm just terrified Pioli will pass on Luck.
Sad but true
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:53 PM   #6
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Yep. I'm just terrified Pioli will pass on Luck.
I'm not.

While I've been disappointed in Pioli thus far, I don't think he's stupid. I think he's just whiffed on evaluating some players. Namely, Tyson Jackson & Matt Cassel.

But don't you think if you were to inject some truth serum in Scott right now he'd admit "Yeah Matt Cassel isn't very good."

Take that line of thought and here right in front of you is the consensus #1 pick. The best QB prospect in years. I just can't see him passing. He might miss on evaluating some players. But he's not stupid. That move would be stupid.

Could you imagine the revolt if that was the case? Wow.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:07 PM   #7
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Let's not go overboard here. Haley was a coveted coach and I think it's a little convenient to say this team gave up because Haley is a dick. Let's not use the convenient argument that Haley was only hired because of "the tree."

Haley's been effective at coaching some areas, and he's made a few mistakes here and there. But you can only coach what you have on the field. And when you take away Moeaki and Berry, this team is average at best. When you take away Moeaki, Berry, and Charles... this team is downright ugly.
I agree. The only playmakers on both sides of the ball. Moeaki was also Cassels safety blanket. FUK U Jon Baldwin.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:09 PM   #8
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Haley was a coveted coach
He was? By who other than the Chiefs?
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:15 PM   #9
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He was? By who other than the Chiefs?
Granted, it was only the media hyping him up, but even before the Chiefs entered the head coach picture, he was touted as an up-and-coming coach because of the Cards' Super Bowl run. He wasn't interviewed by many teams because teams generally don't poach coordinators in the middle of a Super Bowl run.
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