AFCW - so is Oakland going to win it?

[Aries Walker]

We're too far behind, with too many injuries and too many good teams on the schedule, plus we're just not playing well.

The Chargers are doing their annual self-destruction, plus they've got Choker Norv at the helm. They're too far behind and have too many problems.

Denver is a terrible team. Tebow is a terrible quarterback. They've been lucky.

As much as it pains me to say it, Oakland will probably back their way into the division title, and thus will earn the right to get pulverized by the Ravens in the first round.

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

The Chargers are doing their annual self-destruction, plus they've got Choker Norv at the helm. They're too far behind and have too many problems.

The San Diego Chargers Will Fire Norv Turner - John Gennaro, Bolts from the Blue

Norv Turner's time in San Diego is almost over, I'm convinced. If he's still the Head Coach of the San Diego Chargers in 2012, I will eat my hat.

I've told anyone that has asked about Norv's job security that he was safe if the Chargers made the playoffs this season. If they didn't, he could be gone. Now, with the prospect of no playoffs for two consecutive years looming and the main reasons being that Norv's offense and his star pupil (Philip Rivers) are performing miserably, it seems like a sure thing.

7 of the 9 remaining games for the Chargers are against teams with winning records. 4 are against teams with at least 5 wins. The Chargers are 1-3 against teams they've played that currently have winning records, with that one win coming against the Chiefs (who are still not a very good team).

The San Diego Chargers have deteriorated into a bad team. They have no pass rush, they can't stop the run, they have issues in the secondary and they spend more time turning the ball over on offense than actually scoring. These aren't problems that will fix themselves, they are issues that have gotten worse and worse under Norv Turner's tenure as the coach.

The likeliest outcome from 2011 is now that the Raiders win the division and the Chargers are sitting at home again, "elite QB" and all. That is what it would take for the Spanos family and A.J. Smith to give up on Norv Turner as a Head Coach.

The number one reason Norv was hired was Philip Rivers. Rivers was going to will this team to a Super Bowl, as long as he had an Offensive Coordinator that could get the most out of him. That man was Norv, but when Rivers is leading the league in turnovers and the team is losing because of him (or winning in spite of him)....that job security as "Philip Rivers' mentor" sort of goes away.

Rivers is the only one that can save Norv Turner's job now. If he somehow turns back into 2009-2010 Rivers and carries the team to the playoffs on his back (with an MVP-like second half of the season), Turner could be safe. Otherwise, things will need to change in a hurry. A.J. Smith might have great respect for Norv, but he has no patience for missing the playoffs.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2011...re-norv-turner

[Aries Walker]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

The San Diego Chargers Will Fire Norv Turner - John Gennaro, Bolts from the Blue

Norv Turner's time in San Diego is almost over, I'm convinced. If he's still the Head Coach of the San Diego Chargers in 2012, I will eat my hat. [etc.]

I grew up in Maryland, and lived there until last August, so I heard every bit of Norv Turner news while he was with the Redskins. I felt actually bad for the Chargers when I heard that they were getting him, because I knew that all of this was ahead of them.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

We're too far behind, with too many injuries and too many good teams on the schedule, plus we're just not playing well.

The Chargers are doing their annual self-destruction, plus they've got Choker Norv at the helm. They're too far behind and have too many problems.

Denver is a terrible team. Tebow is a terrible quarterback. They've been lucky.

As much as it pains me to say it, Oakland will probably back their way into the division title, and thus will earn the right to get pulverized by the Ravens in the first round.

Better them than us.

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Better them than us.

Now you know damn well you would be happy to make the playoffs and get beat by anyone...

You will never win another Superbowl with an attitude like that.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Better them than us.

Bull****ingshit If a team cannot compete for a ring the next best thing is winning your division. This site flew the 2010 title across the top of the site all off season and still was last time I looked. Chiefs fans have answered every question about last season with "we won the west and you guys didnt"

They did and it beat the hell out of anything the rest of the west did last year. As far as the suck for luck crowd, hows that working out for you? As a fan at least as what I see as a fan, you pull for team to win and during the bad season you hope they play spoiler. Then again there are those who have new gear because they burn what they have when their team struggles~

[R8RFAN]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

Bull****ingshit If a team cannot compete for a ring the next best thing is winning your division. This site flew the 2010 title across the top of the site all off season and still was last time I looked. Chiefs fans have answered every question about last season with "we won the west and you guys didnt"

They did and it beat the hell out of anything the rest of the west did last year. As far as to suck for luck crowd, hows that working out for you? As a fan at least as what I see as a fan, you pull for team to win and during the bad season you hope they play spoiler. Then again there are those who have new gear because they burn what they have when their team struggles~

Oh hell yes, You damn skippy.. Some of these guys here I truly feel bad for but others here are the dumbest of the dumb...

basically the "anybody but Cassel crowd"

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

If a team cannot compete for a ring the next best thing is winning your division. This site flew the 2010 title across the top of the site all off season and still was last time I looked. Chiefs fans have answered every question about last season with "we won the west and you guys didnt"

This site is so biased.... they probably won't even fly a "Raiders 2011 AFCW Champions!" title up on top all season when Oakland wins. Why is that?

[DomCasual]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

This site is so biased.... they probably won't even fly a "Raiders 2011 AFCW Champions!" title up on top all season when Oakland wins. Why is that?

Because that would be weird, with the Broncos winning it?

I kid. Sort of.

[Bacillus Anthracis]

Originally Posted by DomCasual

Because that would be weird, with the Broncos winning it?

I kid. Sort of.

Christ. What a bizarro world AFC West it would be... but Denver has a legit shot at it. Every week they're dogs and every week they win. If I was a DC facing the Donks I'd be in contact with the DC at Alabama or LSU. This college ball business is for the birds.

F'ing strange.

I think Chicago and New England will do the Donks in though. Chicago will win 9-3 and the Pats will win 19-10. And when the Raiders stomp San Diego and KC, that'll lock up the division.