Denver Broncos waived quarterback Kyle Orton today

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I was all for that, until I read Keg's well thought out post today. Stanzi clearly showed talent in his limited exposure in Preseason.
If we really want to give Stanzi a chance to succeed, this is not it. No way could I do justice to Keg's post, but it made a lot of sense. I will try and find it for a link.

At this point he's had 2/3 of a season. He has talented options around him. He has a decent offensive line. This isn't Jacksonville. St. Louis, or Cleveland.

Also, Stanzi is pretty fungible.

If he shows you something, great, it's another asset of value. If he doesn't, whatever.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

At this point he's had 2/3 of a season. He has talented options around him. He has a decent offensive line. This isn't Jacksonville. St. Louis, or Cleveland.

Also, Stanzi is pretty fungible.

If he shows you something, great, it's another asset of value. If he doesn't, whatever.

Good points.
Sorry, had to google fungible, similar action required with a lot of your words.

Here is what Keg had to say in the other thread, and it totally changed my mind. I have been one of the guys screaming for Stanzi since the start of the season. I for one, am sick of other retreads, but think this might be the right instance to finish out the season with one.

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Couple of points there.

First, we haven't seen a fraction of what the coaches have. They see these guys every day for months. Until Sunday, we'd seen a few minutes of both.

Second, saying he'd "clearly outperformed" Palko during the preseason is debatable at best. My recollection is two quarterbacks who largely looked bad playing behind bad lines with bad receivers, who each had some moments where they showed some promise.

Third and final, just like "better than Cassel" does not equal "good", neither does "better than Palko". And it also doesn't equal "ready to play". Stanzi needs to be judged with his own measuring stick, and the decisions made with him should have nothing to do with Palko or wins and losses. It should be purely about whether he's ready to play, regardless of anything else. It's a long-term issue, not an instant gratification thing.

If you think the guy can be a starting quarterback in the NFL, you don't just throw him to the wolves. You prepare him, do your best to put him in situations where he can succeed (which isn't going to happen in 2011 regardless). You don't throw him on the field before he's ready to start, you don't throw him out there him behind a line that can't protect and you don't start playing him in the middle of a murderer's row of defenses just so you can "see what he has". Because if you do those things, you're setting him up to fail from the start.

You can do that with a QB like Palko. Because he's completely and totally expendable. If you think Stanzi has any value long term, that's the exact opposite of what you should do.

That's my opinion at least. My philosophy on how quarterbacks should be handled.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Sorry, had to google fungible, similar action required with a lot of your words.

Here is what Keg had to say in the other thread, and it totally changed my mind. I have been one of the guys screaming for Stanzi since the start of the season. I for one, am sick of other retreads, but think this might be the right instance to finish out the season with one.

He makes good points in that post I would almost agree, the history of the Chiefs not playing or giving drafted QBs the opportunity to play & learn the game by playing is and has been the biggest issue sinse the time of Blackledge. This could be our moment to change history for the Chiefs. We going to let that go? If any thing Stanzi could play a series or two to get him wet. If he does well then continue to insert him in the games to follow more and more to bust his cherry ripe for next year. It's really time to change the mentallity of Chiefs & fans for the fear of rookie QBs & the Blackledge curse for any thing else is what we get to live with. It's our moment.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

He makes good points in that post I would almost agree, the history of the Chiefs not playing or giving drafted QBs the opportunity to play & lean the game by playing is and has been the biggest issue sinse the time of Blackledge. This could be our moment to change history for the Chiefs. We going to let that go? If any thing Stanzi could play a series or two to get him wet. If he does well then continue to insert him in the games to follow more and more to bust his cherry ripe for next year. It's really time to change the mentallity of Chiefs & fans for the fear of rookie QBs & the Blackledge curse for any thing else is what we get to live with. It's our moment.

I honestly think Stanzi has the skills to be the guy. He's arrogant as hell and most importatntly is capable of make plays. I watched him alot in college and the kid is a GAMER that hates losing. Good arm and attitude would do wonders for us.

But of course he will never get to play.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

He makes good points in that post I would almost agree, the history of the Chiefs not playing or giving drafted QBs the opportunity to play & learn the game by playing is and has been the biggest issue sinse the time of Blackledge. This could be our moment to change history for the Chiefs. We going to let that go? If any thing Stanzi could play a series or two to get him wet. If he does well then continue to insert him in the games to follow more and more to bust his cherry ripe for next year. It's really time to change the mentallity of Chiefs & fans for the fear of rookie QBs & the Blackledge curse for any thing else is what we get to live with. It's our moment.

EGG-zackly.