Chiefs Emery to Bears as next GM?

[Marco Polo]

Sorry if repost, hopefully this wouldn't hurt our scouting for the draft.

Two league sources tell the Chicago Sun Times that Chiefs college scouting director Phil Emery is in the "driver's seat" to replace Jerry Angelo as the Bears' next general manager.

Emery worked in the Falcons' front office when Atlanta drafted Michael Vick, and has been with Scott Pioli in Kansas City for the last three seasons. A 31-year football veteran, Emery's background is almost strictly in college scouting.

[stonedstooge]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Not sure. You could be right and Haley was in the loop and respected. But I have serious questions about how much The Gum Wrapper of the Decade trusts anyone other than his own genious.

Only involve someone else to the point that they can be used as a scapegoat later

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I never said they weren't good.

Phil Emery is the director of scouting. He's not the end all and be all of the scouting department. They have a lot of capable guys in that department now and it's not going to hell in a hand basket because he's leaving.

Yeah, that's what they really tried hard to do in terms of setting up the front office the last two years. Emery was an important initial hire from the Falcons because he had worked with Dimitrioff for a bit and picked up the Patriots draft grading system from him, so when he came over here he was able to transition seamlessly and help train the scouts here. One would hope that by now they would have that house in order so that if he does leave, they've got guys to pick up the slack. But at the end of the day it's Pioli's show...

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

So, neither of you think that losing the director of college scouting after two solid drafts is a big deal?

I'm not saying we don't have people in place that could step up and do as good a job, it's possible.

I am just saying that the draft is what this team thrived on IMO the last two years and that hopefully session be able to continue our string of quality drafts (sans 09)

Why bother fighting it.

People are still convinced that you can do an entire draft off of online scouting reports.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Brock

No, I doubt it's going to have any effect at all.

I also, unlike you, don't think Haley ever EVER had anything to do with the drafts. Just thinking about that makes me

Yeah, it's not going to have any effect at all. He only leads the entire scouting department.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I never said they weren't good.

Phil Emery is the director of scouting. He's not the end all and be all of the scouting department. They have a lot of capable guys in that department now and it's not going to hell in a hand basket because he's leaving.

Emery's job is to manage the logistics of the scouting department and to set the "playbooks" so his scouting department is all looking at the right kinds of things.

Anybody who thinks Emery's job isn't difficult has never worked in a business before. There are a gajillion smart "technical" businesspeople in the world today. A select amount of them have any clue how to manage anybody.

Emery has done a good job. We've had good drafts, and the scouting department is typically credited with great great late round picks. I hope we don't lost him.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Emery's job is to manage the logistics of the scouting department and to set the "playbooks" so his scouting department is all looking at the right kinds of things.

Anybody who thinks Emery's job isn't difficult has never worked in a business before. There are a gajillion smart "technical" businesspeople in the world today. A select amount of them have any clue how to manage anybody.

Emery has done a good job. We've had good drafts, and the scouting department is typically credited with great great late round picks. I hope we don't lost him.

Jesus ****ing christ.

What I'm saying is he's essentially the principal of the school. He crunches numbers, gives assignments, and manages the staff.

Losing him isn't the end of the world. Someone else will step into that role.

Where are all these great, great late round picks I keep reading about in this thread?

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Brock

No, I doubt it's going to have any effect at all.

I also, unlike you, don't think Haley ever EVER had anything to do with the drafts. Just thinking about that makes me

Thinking Haley had no hand in our drafts is like saying herm had nothing to do with drafts then too. Not giving either full credit, but come on man, they both had hands in the drafts they were a part of.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Jesus ****ing christ.

What I'm saying is he's essentially the principal of the school. He crunches numbers, gives assignments, and manages the staff.

Losing him isn't the end of the world. Someone else will step into that role.

Where are all these great, great late round picks I keep reading about in this thread?

Yeah, he is easily replaceable but other teams want to hire him in a larger capacity.

How is that supposed to make sense?

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by eric007

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,Lol who are these great players Haley/Emery drafted?Besides Berry and Houston nodody

JFC now I see why you are sporting all that Chiefs red.

[Fritz88]

So for those that think Emery was a major force behind our recent two drafts, how would you reconcile the fact that Pioli is a control freak who imposes his will on his underlings with Emery and Haley getting to choose Pioli's team's draft picks?

Doesn't make sense.

Pioli is the person who probably drafted and scouted every player we drafted in his era.

It is preposterous to credit Haley with shit besides Breaston and Bowe. It is enough that he trusted Palko more than Stanzi.
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

So for those that think Emery was a major force behind our recent two drafts, how would you reconcile the fact that Pioli is a control freak who imposes his will on his underlings with Emery and Haley getting to choose Pioli's team's draft picks?

Doesn't make sense.

Pioli is the person who probably drafted and scouted every player we have.

It is preposterous to credit Haley with shit besides Breaston and Bowe. It is enough that he trusted Palko more than Stanzi.
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Jfc. It doesn't matter how much of a control freak you are. It is enormously impossible to scout every player. In fact, because pioli seems to be so involved in so much, even non football activities, that gives him even less time.

And Haley absolutely deserves credit. He's the guy who developed a lot of these guys.

[Fritz88]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Jfc. It doesn't matter how much of a control freak you are. It is enormously impossible to scout every player. In fact, because pioli seems to be so involved in so much, even non football activities, that gives him even less time.

And Haley absolutely deserves credit. He's the guy who developed a lot of these guys.

The moment I saw your name on the last replied by I knew we were due for some Haley jizz lovin' and nut huggin'.

Pioli has the final say on who we draft. He isn't going to scout every player and neither does Haley. Maybe Emery in a small capacity and I seriously doubt it.
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Jesus ****ing christ.

What I'm saying is he's essentially the principal of the school. He crunches numbers, gives assignments, and manages the staff.

Losing him isn't the end of the world. Someone else will step into that role.

Where are all these great, great late round picks I keep reading about in this thread?

Principal of the school? Are you kidding me?

Do you really think Thomas Dimitroff did nothing in New England? Because Emery is pretty much doing his job. Emery's doing it even MORESO because in New England, Pioli was purely a personnel guy whereas in Kansas City, he has to also handle coaches and, it appears, he micromanages a lot of the business side too. How much time do you think Pioli actually has to spend on scouting?

Emery is THE guy when it comes to scouting. He has to organize the scouting network, collect/digest/process a mountain of scouting information, and then give Pioli the important sound bytes. If anybody thinks Pioli has the time to read every single report from a scout, they're crazy. GMs put a ton of trust in their college scouting directors to get their evaluations right. Pioli may micromanage, but he's only human. Why do you think college scouting directors are constantly interviewed for GM positions? Because they are by a mile the most important guy in the organization below a GM.

And yes, Emery has done a remarkable job the past two seasons. He's been pretty solid in rounds 3-5.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Fritz88

The moment I saw your name on the last replied by I knew we were due for some Haley jizz lovin' and nut huggin'.

Pioli has the final say on who we draft. He isn't going to scout every player and neither does Haley. Maybe Emery in a small capacity and I seriously doubt it.
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When did I say Haley scouted players? I said his job is to take what he's given and develop the hell out of them. And you are seriously an idiot if you think Emery has a limited role in deciding who we draft. Pioli has to digest the information that Emery feeds to him. Pioli can't make an informed decision unless Emery does his job right.

[Chiefaholic]

Originally Posted by Claytex

It would be pretty comical if Emery left and we had another 2009esque class.

Only for people like you who look forward to being the board drama queen.