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Old 01-21-2012, 04:46 AM   #1
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So for those that think Emery was a major force behind our recent two drafts, how would you reconcile the fact that Pioli is a control freak who imposes his will on his underlings with Emery and Haley getting to choose Pioli's team's draft picks?

Doesn't make sense.

Pioli is the person who probably drafted and scouted every player we drafted in his era.

It is preposterous to credit Haley with shit besides Breaston and Bowe. It is enough that he trusted Palko more than Stanzi.
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Old 01-21-2012, 04:51 AM   #2
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So for those that think Emery was a major force behind our recent two drafts, how would you reconcile the fact that Pioli is a control freak who imposes his will on his underlings with Emery and Haley getting to choose Pioli's team's draft picks?

Doesn't make sense.

Pioli is the person who probably drafted and scouted every player we have.

It is preposterous to credit Haley with shit besides Breaston and Bowe. It is enough that he trusted Palko more than Stanzi.
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Jfc. It doesn't matter how much of a control freak you are. It is enormously impossible to scout every player. In fact, because pioli seems to be so involved in so much, even non football activities, that gives him even less time.

And Haley absolutely deserves credit. He's the guy who developed a lot of these guys.
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:07 AM   #3
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Jfc. It doesn't matter how much of a control freak you are. It is enormously impossible to scout every player. In fact, because pioli seems to be so involved in so much, even non football activities, that gives him even less time.

And Haley absolutely deserves credit. He's the guy who developed a lot of these guys.
The moment I saw your name on the last replied by I knew we were due for some Haley jizz lovin' and nut huggin'.

Pioli has the final say on who we draft. He isn't going to scout every player and neither does Haley. Maybe Emery in a small capacity and I seriously doubt it.
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:24 AM   #4
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The moment I saw your name on the last replied by I knew we were due for some Haley jizz lovin' and nut huggin'.

Pioli has the final say on who we draft. He isn't going to scout every player and neither does Haley. Maybe Emery in a small capacity and I seriously doubt it.
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When did I say Haley scouted players? I said his job is to take what he's given and develop the hell out of them. And you are seriously an idiot if you think Emery has a limited role in deciding who we draft. Pioli has to digest the information that Emery feeds to him. Pioli can't make an informed decision unless Emery does his job right.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:16 AM   #5
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So for those that think Emery was a major force behind our recent two drafts, how would you reconcile the fact that Pioli is a control freak who imposes his will on his underlings with Emery and Haley getting to choose Pioli's team's draft picks?

Doesn't make sense.

Pioli is the person who probably drafted and scouted every player we drafted in his era.

It is preposterous to credit Haley with shit besides Breaston and Bowe. It is enough that he trusted Palko more than Stanzi.
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Of course it doesn't make sense. They want to talk out both sides of their mouths. Pioli is a micromanager, but leaves everything to Emery?

It's Chiefzilla though. Common sense probably never paid a visit to his brain.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:09 AM   #6
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Of course it doesn't make sense. They want to talk out both sides of their mouths. Pioli is a micromanager, but leaves everything to Emery?

It's Chiefzilla though. Common sense probably never paid a visit to his brain.
Yeah. I'm the one who lacks common sense. Which is why you're agreeing with the suggestion that Scott Pioli, a man busier than anyone I could ever imagine, has the time to individually scout thousands of players or has some kind of magic eyeball that allows him to know out thousands of players, these are the 50 I'm going to pay more attention to.

"Common sense": Pioli's job is to make the tough decisions about who to draft where. He also has to make decisions on how to run the organization, manage his coaches, work with pro personnel to know the talent that exists on other NFL rosters, etc.... He has a million and a half things to do. Pioli supposedly works unbelievably hard, but he's a human being. He can't possibly be a guru on scouting. Instead, he has to place a ton of trust in Emery to get him a manageable list of recruits and make sure that those recruits have very good scouting reports attached to them. Dwindling down that list from thousands to a select few Pioli can pay close attention to is really, really difficult work. You have to an outstanding eye for talent to do that. And coordinating your scouts to work on a very specific "playbook" so they know exactly what they're looking for, is hard work too.

By the way, this is the same argument I used to defend Pioli in NE against the dumbasses who said Pioli did nothing there. People credit Dimitroff and/or Bellichick. Both of those guys deserve credit, but from a personnel standpoint, the guy who deserves the most credit is Pioli. That's true here too. Pioli deserves the lion's share of credit, but he can't do it without Emery.
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