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Old 02-02-2012, 09:10 PM   #1
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Say it.

The Chiefs can make the playoffs behind Matt Cassel in a QB driven league. That's all I'm asking. (against a regular schedule).
Um, yea seeing as they DID
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:11 PM   #2
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Um, yea seeing as they DID
Against a regular schedule.

And I should add... without Jamaal Charles to take the ball away from Matt Cassel.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:14 PM   #3
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Against a regular schedule.

And I should add... without Jamaal Charles to take the ball away from Matt Cassel.
What do you mean a "regular schedule"?

We played the schedule put in front of us.

This season if orton had played all 16 games I believe we would have made the playoffs, even with the injuries
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:15 PM   #4
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What do you mean a "regular schedule"?

We played the schedule put in front of us.

This season if orton had played all 16 games I believe we would have made the playoffs, even with the injuries
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Yes. I absolutely believe that. But whose fault is that? The coach's? Or the front office that forced Haley to play with a coach that was half of Orton, an average QB's, ability?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:18 PM   #5
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Yes. I absolutely believe that. But whose fault is that? The coach's? Or the front office that forced Haley to play with a coach that was half of Orton, an average QB's, ability?
you just said not one person here could say that, but you could?

Are you ok tonight? You didn't fall and hit your head today did you?

Haley wasn't forced to do anything, if he didn't like it he could have walked.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:16 PM   #6
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Against a regular schedule.

And I should add... without Jamaal Charles to take the ball away from Matt Cassel.
Well the schedule he played against was a regular season schedule. WTF?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:20 PM   #7
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Well the schedule he played against was a regular season schedule. WTF?
The schedule the Chiefs played in 2010 was the easiest in the league.

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Old 02-02-2012, 09:23 PM   #8
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The schedule the Chiefs played in 2010 was the easiest in the league.

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I see, it's Cassel's fault they played what ended up being the easiest schedule in the league. Got it.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:26 PM   #9
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I see, it's Cassel's fault they played what ended up being the easiest schedule in the league. Got it.
What the **** are you talking about?

The Chiefs made the playoffs in 2010 because they had Jamaal Charles and an easy schedule. The defense was okay. The QB was shit.

The talent in 2010 wasn't good. For ANY coach. The healthy talent in 2011 was even worse.

We're not talking about Norv Turner undercoaching a talented team. We're talking about a coach being asked to coach a team that doesn't have much talent, particularly at the QB position.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #10
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What the **** are you talking about?

The Chiefs made the playoffs in 2010 because they had Jamaal Charles and an easy schedule. The defense was okay. The QB was shit.

The talent in 2010 wasn't good. For ANY coach. The healthy talent in 2011 was even worse.

We're not talking about Norv Turner undercoaching a talented team. We're talking about a coach being asked to coach a team that doesn't have much talent, particularly at the QB position.
The QB was shit? I am not big on Cassel but the dude did toss for 27 TD and 7 picks that year. That's hardly a shit performance.
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I see, it's Cassel's fault they played what ended up being the easiest schedule in the league. Got it.
To a point yes. Was he not the QB of this team the year prior? Did they not play so poorly under his leadership that they ended up with pick #5? The really good QBs never seem to have their team picking in the top 5.
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To a point yes. Was he not the QB of this team the year prior? Did they not play so poorly under his leadership that they ended up with pick #5? The really good QBs never seem to have their team picking in the top 5.
This is true but I will give Cassel a partial pass on that season. 1 it was his first time starting. 2 his OC was fired 2 weeks before the season started. 3 it was a new head coach. Not a total excuse but enough I won't lay it all on him.
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