Junior Seau dead, probable suicide

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by niblet

You know, serial killers are probably the worst hit by uncontrollable mental depravity and natural inclinations toward antisocial behavior. Are we supposed to tread carefully around their criticism as well?

No, because serial killers act out and impose pain on others. And while Seau's actions will pain others his committing suicide was acting out on himself against himself.

A friend was having an affair, loved both women, couldn't decide on which and in a fit of drunken stupor killed himself on Christmas Eve with his young children downstairs at a party the family was hosting.
A house full of friends and family celebrating Christmas forever tarnished with the memory of that night. We were invited but did not attend that party, thank God.

If there was an argument for suicide being selfish his suicide would fit the bill. Yet after the shock and anger wears off you see a tragic story of someone who lost control of their life, was living a lie, drank too much and had a gun in the house.

We often wonder, if he'd just waited until the morning would he have made the same choice? We think he wouldn't. Believe it or not, he was a fantastic father, good husband, and all around loveable sweet guy. The last person in the world you would call 'selfish.'

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

No, because serial killers act out and impose pain on others. And while Seau's actions will pain others his committing suicide was acting out on himself against himself.

A friend was having an affair, loved both women, couldn't decide on which and in a fit of drunken stupor killed himself on Christmas Eve with his young children downstairs at a party the family was hosting.
A house full of friends and family celebrating Christmas forever tarnished with the memory of that night. We were invited but did not attend that party, thank God.

If there was an argument for suicide being selfish his suicide would fit the bill. Yet after the shock and anger wears off you see a tragic story of someone who lost control of their life, was living a lie, drank too much and had a gun in the house.

We often wonder, if he'd just waited until the morning would he have made the same choice? We think he wouldn't. Believe it or not, he was a fantastic father, good husband, and all around loveable sweet guy. The last person in the world you would call 'selfish.'

Don't know the guy, but I have to disagree with the fantastic father, good husband part. He was obviously neither or he wouldn't have been in the pickle he was in.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Don't know the guy, but I have to disagree with the fantastic father, good husband part. He was obviously neither or he wouldn't have been in the pickle he was in.

Well there was the rub. He was the LAST person you would have expected to be living a double life. I think of it as a really good person who made a series of bad choices and then lost control. If he'd been a lying dog then I think he probably could have lived with himself but he wasn't and didn't know how to handle his failures.

It was all around sad. Still is.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

A friend was having an affair, loved both women, couldn't decide on which and in a fit of drunken stupor [B]killed himself on Christmas Eve with his young children downstairs at a party the family was hosting.

Believe it or not, he was a fantastic father, good husband, and all around loveable sweet guy. The last person in the world you would call 'selfish.'

Um. No. Sometimes I have trouble believing you can find your mouth with a spoon.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Um. No. Sometimes I have trouble believing you can find your mouth with a spoon.

I arrested a kid and added the charge of resisting and assault when he folded my knee backwards during the handcuffing. Later he said he wasn't resisting, he just didn't want to be arrested.



This seemed like another of those moments. "He's not selfish, sure he cheated and spent quality time with another woman that could have been spent on his wife or family, but he's anything but selfish."

It boggles my mind.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

A friend was having an affair, loved both women, couldn't decide on which and in a fit of drunken stupor killed himself on Christmas Eve with his young children downstairs at a party the family was hosting.
A house full of friends and family celebrating Christmas forever tarnished with the memory of that night. We were invited but did not attend that party, thank God.

If there was an argument for suicide being selfish his suicide would fit the bill. Yet after the shock and anger wears off you see a tragic story of someone who lost control of their life, was living a lie, drank too much and had a gun in the house.

We often wonder, if he'd just waited until the morning would he have made the same choice? We think he wouldn't. Believe it or not, he was a fantastic father, good husband, and all around loveable sweet guy. The last person in the world you would call 'selfish.'