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Old 10-13-2012, 02:09 PM  
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Clark caught between a rock and a hard place
Clark is in a Catch-22. If he lets Pioli go now, there will be the perception among the fans, owners, and the NFL in general that he doesn't really make the decisions around here- he will be percieved as beeing subject to the whims of the fans. On the other hand, if he doesn't let Pioli go, he will have totally alienated the entire fan base who makes his team profitable (outside of TV revenues). The Chiefs have made one PR blunder after another this year and fans are on the verge of outright revolt.

In all seriousness, if you are Clark- and view this purely as a business decision- what is your next move?
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:11 PM   #2
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This definitely hasn't been discussed and was absolutely worthy of a new thread.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:11 PM   #3
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Ugh you make the decision that is best for your franchise. In this case, it's firing Pioli. And who cares if it makes it look like the fans persuaded the decision. The fans are who SHOULD be making this decision.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:12 PM   #4
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This definitely hasn't been discussed and was absolutely worthy of a new thread.
Says the guy who made thread #2138024702 about Stanzi a couple days ago.
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Says the guy who made thread #2138024702 about Stanzi a couple days ago.
I won't make another one...but I will bump my Stanzi should start thread in about a month.
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Ugh you make the decision that is best for your franchise. In this case, it's firing Pioli. And who cares if it makes it look like the fans persuaded the decision. The fans are who SHOULD be making this decision.
nope

You sit down with Pioli and make it perfectly clear that the Cassel experiment is over and he is to make getting a stud QB his top priority right now. That includes possibly trading Bowe or whomever, before the deadline, to a team that looks to have a top draft pick next year.

Also IF Crennel is staying, which is probably has to, then they need to hire a DC that can not only help Crennel but can augment the defensive scheme with the more aggressive plays(ala 1-gap plays).

despite all the rumor/media/make-believe bullshit that's being talk about around here, the 2 things we really need are a franchise QB and improved HC coaching.

It might not be ideal, but blowing it all up again is probably not a good idea so soon either.

Give us QB Geno Smith and DC Kirby Smart and we're good.
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Pioli's gone Laz.

His drafts are average, his QB and HC decisions are monumentally stupid, and he's a PR nightmare.
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Clark is in a Catch-22. If he lets Pioli go now, there will be the perception among the fans, owners, and the NFL in general that he doesn't really make the decisions around here- he will be percieved as beeing subject to the whims of the fans. On the other hand, if he doesn't let Pioli go, he will have totally alienated the entire fan base who makes his team profitable (outside of TV revenues). The Chiefs have made one PR blunder after another this year and fans are on the verge of outright revolt.

In all seriousness, if you are Clark- and view this purely as a business decision- what is your next move?
You have to let Pioli go. There really is no other option open to him here.

Keeping him around until the end of the season will only serve to alienate the fans. The knowledgeable ones anyway. The Chiefs will always have fans no matter how this all turns out BUT, they will no longer have the majority of the old school that know the ins and outs of the team... instead they will have a bunch of people for whom season tickets are a status symbol instead of a symbol of dedication to the team.

He really has little choice.
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nope

You sit down with Pioli and make it perfectly clear that the Cassel experiment is over and he is to make getting a stud QB his top priority right now. That includes possibly trading Bowe or whomever, before the deadline, to a team that looks to have a top draft pick next year.

Also IF Crennel is staying, which is probably has to, then they need to hire a DC that can not only help Crennel but can augment the defensive scheme with the more aggressive plays(ala 1-gap plays).

despite all the rumor/media/make-believe bullshit that's being talk about around here, the 2 things we really need are a franchise QB and improved HC coaching.

It might not be ideal, but blowing it all up again is probably not a good idea so soon either.

Give us QB Geno Smith and DC Kirby Smart and we're good.
Wow, your head is in the sand.

No head coach wants to ****ing work in Kansas city. No defensive coordinator or offensive coordinator wants to work here. I can't imagine what kind of reject coach we'd have to get that would agree to being micro managed all the way to the starting lineup setup.

And as long as pioli is there,arrowhead will be dead. You can't shut the media out and not think that maybe the media helped create some excitement around the team.

There is nothing good that comes of keeping pioli. I generally like the team he has built, but some of the damage is unrepairable unless he leaves.
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Clark is in a Catch-22. If he lets Pioli go now, there will be the perception among the fans, owners, and the NFL in general that he doesn't really make the decisions around here- he will be percieved as beeing subject to the whims of the fans. On the other hand, if he doesn't let Pioli go, he will have totally alienated the entire fan base who makes his team profitable (outside of TV revenues). The Chiefs have made one PR blunder after another this year and fans are on the verge of outright revolt.

In all seriousness, if you are Clark- and view this purely as a business decision- what is your next move?
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Chiefzilla nailed it. Pioli is the cancer of the Chiefs. He must go.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:46 PM   #15
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No head coach wants to ****ing work in Kansas city.

No defensive coordinator or offensive coordinator wants to work here. I can't imagine what kind of reject coach we'd have to get that would

agree to being micro managed all the way to the starting lineup setup.

And as long as pioli is there,arrowhead will be dead.

You can't shut the media out and not think that maybe the media helped create some excitement around the team.
all made-up, tinfoil hat bullshit

There isn't any evident to backup the Dr. Evil/Pioli bullshit ... it's just crazy fans who have talked themselves into believe shit because they are pissed.
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