The Chiefs QB: Lack Of Opportunity Or Total Pioli Failure?

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Both.

Pioli failed with Cassel but there's also been a lack of opportunity. The one legitimate opportunity to grab a QB came last year when Tannehill was up for grabs.

The rest like Dalton, Sanchez, Freeman, Wilson, etc... I don't give a **** about. Remind me when the last time a bottom 3rd QB won anything.

Also, I don't care about RG3. Only morons believe he was an option for the Chiefs.

Dalton's clearly better than Cassel right now.
Wilson's flashed, but he's been inconsistent.
Freeman's inconsistent too.
Sanchez is trash.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Dalton's clearly better than Cassel right now.
Wilson's flashed, but he's been inconsistent.
Freeman's inconsistent too.
Sanchez is trash.

I'm so sick of hearing this "X is better than Cassel."

Let me know when you can come to the table with "X can compete for a SB."

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I'm so sick of hearing this "X is better than Cassel."

Let me know when you can come to the table with "X can compete for a SB."

That's a short list, but I do think Dalton gives that team some hope.
And he's only going to get better.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Dalton's clearly better than Cassel right now.
Wilson's flashed, but he's been inconsistent.
Freeman's inconsistent too.
Sanchez is trash.

a ton of people passed on Wilson

Freeman fell

passing on Sanchez,Gabbert and Clausen appear to be good decisions so far.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by Hoover

So after acquiring Cassel you would have still drafted Freeman?

Hindsight is 20/20 but when Pioli landed Cassel for a 2nd Rounder it looked like a great deal.

JFC. No it didn't.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Hoover

So after acquiring Cassel you would have still drafted Freeman?

Hindsight is 20/20 but when Pioli landed Cassel for a 2nd Rounder it looked like a great deal.

Not sure I'd call it "great", but I think it was a solid transaction.
The problem has always been him prematurely giving him that contract.
THAT was the mistake.

Subsequently, he's missed on probably 3 QB's in the draft.
I believe one maybe two of them is clearly better than Cassel today.

Opportunity or no opportunity, it's still on Pioli.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Hoover

So after acquiring Cassel you would have still drafted Freeman?

Hindsight is 20/20 but when Pioli landed Cassel for a 2nd Rounder it looked like a great deal.

Not sure how you say it looked like a great deal. Not to mention, the deal wasn't even necessary. We could have let Cassel play for one year instead of giving him a fat contract that he hadn't earned.

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Not sure how you say it looked like a great deal. Not to mention, the deal wasn't even necessary. We could have let Cassel play for one year instead of giving him a fat contract that he hadn't earned.

Exactly.
Pioli locked him up as if he thought some team was gonna offer him a big deal.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Hoover

So after acquiring Cassel you would have still drafted Freeman?

Hindsight is 20/20 but when Pioli landed Cassel for a 2nd Rounder it looked like a great deal.

WRONG

Hindsight is 50/50

idiot

[Woodchuck]

No one was going to draft Freeman at #3 in 2009. Furthermore, Pioli tried to trade back and you couldn't give that pick away. Hindsight is 20/20.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I think you have to look at both factors, but at the end of the day he hopped in bed with Cassel and that's his ultimate downfall.

[Woodchuck]

Originally Posted by PGM

I think you have to look at both factors, but at the end of the day he hopped in bed with Cassel and that's his ultimate downfall.

He hopped in bed with Cassel when he gave him that contract waaayyyy to early. That is why it is ultimately Pioli's fault. Trading for Cassel wasn't bad. Locking him up was bad.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

He hopped in bed with Cassel when he gave him that contract waaayyyy to early. That is why it is ultimately Pioli's fault. Trading for Cassel wasn't bad. Locking him up was bad.

Trading for Cassel WAS bad. When are teams going to learn that going after other teams' backups that had a good year or a good game or two in relieve of the starter is not a smart move? When you have a high pick like we did and no QB worth a shit on your roster that you'd start, you'd think a GM would want to make his first pick a QB to establish his tenure and show some balls.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Trading for Cassel WAS bad. When are teams going to learn that going after other teams' backups that had a good year or a good game or two in relieve of the starter is not a smart move? When you have a high pick like we did and no QB worth a shit on your roster that you'd start, you'd think a GM would want to make his first pick a QB to establish his tenure and show some balls.

not really

a 2nd rounder for Cassel and Vrabel was fine as transitional guys steady the ship. Cassel would of been fine for a season IF you picked up a young QB to take the starting job over when he was ready.

Giving a big contract to Cassel before a single KC snap WAS TERRIBLE.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by PGM

I think you have to look at both factors, but at the end of the day he hopped in bed with Cassel and that's his ultimate downfall.

Yep.