Sperm donor needs to pay child support?

[Msmith]

I really scratch my head on this one:

TOPEKA, Kan. -- The state of Kansas is trying to force a man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple to pay child support, arguing that the agreement he and the women signed releasing him from all parental duties was invalid because they didn't go through a doctor...

The link: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/02...erm-donor.html

[luv]

Originally Posted by Fish

At least he got to bang a lesbian.....

He dropped his sperm off at their house, and the lesbians used a syringe. That's what the story said, anyway.

[notorious]

Wow.

What a dumbass.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by luv

He dropped his sperm off at their house, and the lesbians used a syringe. That's what the story said, anyway.

Sonofabitch!

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by ndws

I saw that on the news. Had he used a real doctor apparently, the courts would have viewed it differently.

So, I have to ask. How did he impregnate the lesbo without a dr?

I don't want to get all technical, but a man has a pee-pee and a woman has a hoo-ha...

[alnorth]

Look at it from the state's point of view. As a matter of public policy, we have decided that if you have sex with a woman and knock her up, then you are the father, and entitled to parental rights and financially responsible, with some odd exceptions like rape. As a matter of public policy, we have also decided that fathers and mothers can not waive financial responsibility, unless the kid is adopted out.

Whether you agree with it or not, thats the case. OK, since that is the case...

if you don't go through a clinic or a doctor, how is the state supposed to know whether or not you had sex? As far as they are concerned, you might be lying, and maybe the woman is helping you lie in exchange for sole custody. Even if she claims to be a lesbian, maybe she's bi, or drunk, or whatever, the state doesn't want to hear it.

There's a procedure that must be followed to be a sperm donor. If you don't follow that procedure, the state is just going to assume you knocked her up.

[luv]

Originally Posted by alnorth

edit: regarding the documents, if you are legally recognized to be the father (which he is, he was not a sperm donor), then you are not permitted to sign away your financial responsibility, even if you agree to waive all custody and parental rights.

Really? My brother signed over such rights, and he only owed back child support from the time he and his ex divorced until the time he signed over his rights. Of course, their stepdad adopted them at the same time.

He should have had them put in the agreement that the non-child bearing partner would adopt the child once it was born. Of course, he'd still be on the hook, because I doubt they'd list two mothers.

[Monty]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Family law has one single, immutable precedent:

Whatever happens - **** over every single male involved.

It's really absurd at this point. The entire field of family law has had so much precedent that has chipped away at the rights of men over the last 25 years that most courts essentially get the result they want (**** over the 'father') and work backwards to create a rationale for it.

For awhile I was looking at going into family law and I ended up absolutely disgusted by where the field has gone. There's really no justice in family court for men.

This, this, and THIS. The man is only important when......


























it comes to $$ and insurance coverage.....

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by alnorth

he probably wasn't set up, the stupid lesbians probably thought he'd be in the clear too. They didn't go after him, the state did.

Ok, then that changes things quite a bit. Why is the state pursuing this with such fervor? To make an example for those who do not follow the state monopoly rule?

[Monty]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Look at it from the state's point of view. As a matter of public policy, we have decided that if you have sex with a woman and knock her up, then you are the father, and entitled to parental rights and financially responsible, with some odd exceptions like rape. As a matter of public policy, we have also decided that fathers and mothers can not waive financial responsibility, unless the kid is adopted out.

Whether you agree with it or not, thats the case. OK, since that is the case...

if you don't go through a clinic or a doctor, how is the state supposed to know whether or not you had sex? As far as they are concerned, you might be lying, and maybe the woman is helping you lie in exchange for sole custody. Even if she claims to be a lesbian, maybe she's bi, or drunk, or whatever, the state doesn't want to hear it.

There's a procedure that must be followed to be a sperm donor. If you don't follow that procedure, the state is just going to assume you knocked her up.

I actually agree with this, but you won't know that because I'm on iggy...heheh

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Fish

At least he got to bang a lesbian.....

Well, neither was the hot kind of lesbian like on TV.

[BigCatDaddy]

I always suspected Angela's hard on for Tony was just a cover for her Lesbian lifesytle.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by luv

Really? My brother signed over such rights, and he only owed back child support from the time he and his ex divorced until the time he signed over his rights. Of course, their stepdad adopted them at the same time.

He should have had them put in the agreement that the non-child bearing partner would adopt the child once it was born. Of course, he'd still be on the hook, because I doubt they'd list two mothers.

The adoption changes things.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Sounds like the man was set up. Then again, as you said, no one forced him to be the donor.

This dude saw an ad on Craigslist for some ****ing and applied. He should have at least consulted an attorney over a legal contract, however, he was thinking with his prick, wanted some tang, and, just like anybody else who's ****ing for the sake of tang can, he got burned.

Moral of this story: Get off Craigslist, go to the club, pick up a chick, put on a condom and then don't worry about paying child support.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Oh Snap

Ok, then that changes things quite a bit. Why is the state pursuing this with such fervor? To make an example for those who do not follow the state monopoly rule?

Apparently the state is being forced to pay for the kid somehow. More than likely the lesbian is on WIC or something. They found out there's a father, so now they want their money back.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Look at it from the state's point of view. As a matter of public policy, we have decided that if you have sex with a woman and knock her up, then you are the father, and entitled to parental rights and financially responsible, with some odd exceptions like rape. As a matter of public policy, we have also decided that fathers and mothers can not waive financial responsibility, unless the kid is adopted out.

Whether you agree with it or not, thats the case. OK, since that is the case...

if you don't go through a clinic or a doctor, how is the state supposed to know whether or not you had sex? As far as they are concerned, you might be lying, and maybe the woman is helping you lie in exchange for sole custody. Even if she claims to be a lesbian, maybe she's bi, or drunk, or whatever, the state doesn't want to hear it.

There's a procedure that must be followed to be a sperm donor. If you don't follow that procedure, the state is just going to assume you knocked her up.

It is easy to check. Look at his cell phone records and see if he downloaded this around the conception date.: