Life Sperm donor needs to pay child support?

Msmith · 01-03-2013, 11:16 AM

I really scratch my head on this one:

TOPEKA, Kan. -- The state of Kansas is trying to force a man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple to pay child support, arguing that the agreement he and the women signed releasing him from all parental duties was invalid because they didn't go through a doctor...

The link: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/02...erm-donor.html

ndws · 01-03-2013, 11:18 AM

I saw that on the news. Had he used a real doctor apparently, the courts would have viewed it differently.

So, I have to ask. How did he impregnate the lesbo without a dr? Old fashioned? Turkey baister? fling it like a monkey with poop?

Msmith · 01-03-2013, 11:19 AM

May be the couple just wanted to save money so they skipped the medical part.

**alnorth** · 01-03-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ndws

I saw that on the news. Had he used a real doctor apparently, the courts would have viewed it differently.

So, I have to ask. How did he impregnate the lesbo without a dr? Old fashioned? Turkey baister? fling it like a monkey with poop?

Thats the way it always has been, in nearly every state.

If you want to be a sperm donor, you MUST do it through a doctor or through a clinic. You CAN NOT do it on your own.

If you try to donate sperm on your own without involving a doctior or a clinic, all the legal papers in the world don't matter. You are not a sperm donor, you are dad.

This man is a friggin' moron. He could have easily found this out by looking it up, and for something this important (not wanting to be financially responsible) he should have. Too bad for him now, he's screwed.

ndws · 01-03-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Thats the way it always has been, in nearly every state.

If you want to be a sperm donor, you MUST do it through a doctor or through a clinic. You CAN NOT do it on your own.

If you try to donate sperm on your own without involving a doctior or a clinic, all the legal papers in the world don't matter. You are not a sperm donor, you are dad.

This man is a friggin' moron. He could have easily found this out by looking it up, and for something this important (not wanting to be financially responsible) he should have. Too bad for him now, he's screwed.

Yep, you are correct. But I still want to know the process, because I'm twisted like that. They are lesbians, they apparently hate the weiner. He's not using a medical 3rd party for insemination. What happened, how did it go down??? lol

cosmo20002 · 01-03-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ndws

I saw that on the news. Had he used a real doctor apparently, the courts would have viewed it differently.

So, I have to ask. How did he impregnate the lesbo without a dr?

I don't want to get all technical, but a man has a pee-pee and a woman has a hoo-ha...

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 01-03-2013, 11:19 AM

friend of mine is his attorney....yeah, it boils down to technically by law if they had used a doctor to do the insemination he's off the hook.

DJ's left nut · 01-03-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

friend of mine is his attorney....yeah, it boils down to technically by law if they had used a doctor to do the insemination he's off the hook.

It shouldn't matter, but "The Best Interests of the Child" test has been so bastardized that the courts are able to twist it to fit.

It would be in the best interests of any child to have a court declare that Bill Gates is its father...that doesn't mean it makes sense. Hell, simple contract law should've mattered here, but again, courts are so willing to run roughshod over everyone using the Best Interests test that it makes the entire field a waste of effort at this point.

Family courts are essentially corrupt. They exist solely to extract money from as many pockets as necessary to keep the state from being on the hook. It's a disgrace and a real disservice to family law practitioners because those tend to be some of the most impassioned lawyers you'll find. And for their efforts, they're hamstrung by a rigged game.

threebag · 01-03-2013, 11:20 AM

Well someone's getting ****ed

Brock · 01-03-2013, 11:20 AM

"Marotta, a 46-year-old Topeka resident, answered an online ad in 2009 from a local couple, Angela Bauer and Jennifer Schreiner, who said they were seeking a sperm donor."

What a strange thing to do.

Prison Bitch · 01-03-2013, 11:21 AM

Why can't the Lesbians pay the child's bills, again? What's the story there?

**luv** · 01-03-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Why can't the Lesbians pay the child's bills, again? What's the story there?

Probably because their union is not legally recognized in the state. It would be the same as if it were a heterosexual boyfriend/girlfriend in a non-common law marriage state, I would think. Say the boyfriend can't get the girlfriend prego, so they use a third party's sperm. The couple breaks up. The boyfriend would not be responsible for paying child support, because it's technically not his kid.

KCFaninSEA · 01-03-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

Probably because their union is not legally recognized in the state. It would be the same as if it were a heterosexual boyfriend/girlfriend in a non-common law marriage state, I would think. Say the boyfriend can't get the girlfriend prego, so they use a third party's sperm. The couple breaks up. The boyfriend would not be responsible for paying child support, because it's technically not his kid.

Much depends on the state. In my state if a child lives with you and would be adversely affected by moving, the child could be awarded support to continue living in the same type of atmosphere. Messed up but it has happened.

ndws · 01-03-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Why can't the Lesbians pay the child's bills, again? What's the story there?

I think, if I remember right, the lesbians seperated. Something about one of them maybe seeking state aid I think, and that triggered the child support. I don't think they wanted it, and I don't think he wanted to give it...so the court did the obvious thing and said he had to because he didn't have a medical professional (who spent some money with the state to get his license) sling the goo in her for him.

Oh Snap · 01-03-2013, 11:43 AM

Artificial insemination can cost upwards of $30,000. That is a lot of money. That is probably why they went through alternative means to get pregnant. Now did he actually have sex with one of the lesbos? I still fail to see how he is liable, especially considering a written agreement of which they acknowledge? Can't they just be grateful that they didn't have to shell out an extra $30k for a child that they apparently wanted?

01-03-2013, 11:16 AM	Topic Starter
Msmith Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $8238035	Sperm donor needs to pay child support? I really scratch my head on this one: TOPEKA, Kan. -- The state of Kansas is trying to force a man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple to pay child support, arguing that the agreement he and the women signed releasing him from all parental duties was invalid because they didn't go through a doctor... The link: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/02...erm-donor.html
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01-03-2013, 11:18 AM	#2
ndws Starter Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $10010931	I saw that on the news. Had he used a real doctor apparently, the courts would have viewed it differently. So, I have to ask. How did he impregnate the lesbo without a dr? Old fashioned? Turkey baister? fling it like a monkey with poop?
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Msmith Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $8238035	May be the couple just wanted to save money so they skipped the medical part.
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Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	"Marotta, a 46-year-old Topeka resident, answered an online ad in 2009 from a local couple, Angela Bauer and Jennifer Schreiner, who said they were seeking a sperm donor." What a strange thing to do.
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Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	Why can't the Lesbians pay the child's bills, again? What's the story there?
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01-03-2013, 11:43 AM	#15
Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $8934925	Artificial insemination can cost upwards of $30,000. That is a lot of money. That is probably why they went through alternative means to get pregnant. Now did he actually have sex with one of the lesbos? I still fail to see how he is liable, especially considering a written agreement of which they acknowledge? Can't they just be grateful that they didn't have to shell out an extra $30k for a child that they apparently wanted?
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