Top 5 reasons you should vote for me for DOTY

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Service industry, money, booze, girls, no education.

He gets drunk and satisfies fat women in exchange for cash.

It's a good gig if you can tolerate it.

fortunately my resume was good enough to land me a pretty sweet career

I think employers are going to start leaning away from hiring kids out of college since everyone goes to college now and it is literally dumbing down the work force and start focusing on experience so on and so forth

college should be for doctors and lawyers...

you don't need college for anything else

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

college should be for doctors and lawyers...

you don't need college for anything else

This makes you look like you need an education to avoid looking reeruned.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by lewdog

This makes you look like you need an education to avoid looking reeruned.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by lewdog

This makes you look like you need an education to avoid looking reeruned.

To each their own.

I have plenty of friends with degrees and I don't consider them to be very smart people. Some are, some aren't.

A degree is overrated IMO.

I think in the next 10-20 years employers are going to start agreeing. They are very watered down now.

(excluding doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc...)

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

A degree is overrated IMO.

I think in the next 10-20 years employers are going to start agreeing. They are very watered down now.

Depends on the discipline, but if you choose the right degree with a definite job at the end, your career earning to debt ratio is very good. If you are like many idiots who get psychology or general business degrees and expect a decent paying job, good ****ing luck.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Depends on the discipline, but if you choose the right degree with a definite job at the end, your career earning to debt ratio is very good. If you are like many idiots who get psychology or general business degrees and expect a decent paying job, good ****ing luck.

well I agree

but the kids that are getting those shitty degrees like you said and think they are just going to get a great job handed to them after they graduate are insane

my ex has a communication degree from Illinois and she couldn't even get a 2nd interview when she moved to California and ended up working two shit jobs at a hotel and at Panera

another girl racked up $120K in student loans to get a spanish degree at U of I and she didn't want to be a spanish teacher and had no idea what she was going to do with it...she walks dogs in Chicago

I worked with a ton of these people over the years and they had the worst work ethic I had ever seen...

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

but the kids that are getting those shitty degrees like you said and think they are just going to get a great job handed to them after they graduate are insane

That is called entitlement, which parents of these children allowed them to develop. I was told when I went to college at 18, better get a good degree because we love you, but you aren't coming back to live with your father and I! A degree does not entitle you to a job of any sorts!

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by lewdog

That is called entitlement, which parents of these children allowed them to develop. I was told when I went to college at 18, better get a good degree because we love you, but you aren't coming back to live with your father and I! A degree does not entitle you to a job of any sorts!

more or less what I've noticed

totally agree, too

unfortunately a lot of these kids, at least where I live, are super entitled

which is good for people who actually want to dedicate themselves and work hard; plenty of jobs to go around

[Cephalic Trauma]

Eh, I could be a case in point for watering down the physician profession.

You've seen me post here.

However, i disagree entirely, and I think your view is skewed by two things:
a. You didn't get a degree, and there is some inherent regret there. That happens to almost everybody in that situation, whether they admit it or not

b. You need to start surrounding yourself with better people. A college degree won't make you, but it will give you a lot of opportunities to make yourself. The rest is up to you.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

b. You need to start surrounding yourself with better people. A college degree won't make you, but it will give you a lot of opportunities to make yourself. The rest is up to you.

I don't really need to do anything.

I already have a career in something I excel at and has no ceiling for advancement.

Kobe!

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I don't really need to do anything.

I already have a career in something I excel at and has no ceiling for advancement.

Kobe!

Okay, then don't. But that's why your point of view is skewed.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

fortunately my resume was good enough to land me a pretty sweet career

I think employers are going to start leaning away from hiring kids out of college since everyone goes to college now and it is literally dumbing down the work force and start focusing on experience so on and so forth

college should be for doctors and lawyers...

you don't need college for anything else

Engineering?

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

Engineering?

yeah and that

and teachers

but getting an economics degree? Whoopdeedoo.

Don't give a shit. I've dated plenty of girls with degrees who were simply ... dumb.

If someone gave me $50K and said you have to finish your 4 year degree with a 4.0 I could do it without issue.

The problem I always faced was I didn't have someone forcing me to go to class and I would simply just not go. I got drunk, worked full time, and put vagina over being an adult.

I regret it at times, but it doesn't really matter anymore because I'm pretty much set.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

yeah and that

and teachers

but getting an economics degree? Whoopdeedoo.

Don't give a shit. I've dated plenty of girls with degrees who were simply ... dumb.

Yea, I know plenty of people who have degrees who are clueless about making it in the world. My fiance did not go to college but is plenty ****ing smart. She easily could get a degree but chose to work right away and not rack up debt. The debt gathering was my job!

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Yea, I know plenty of people who have degrees who are clueless about making it in the world. My fiance did not go to college but is plenty ****ing smart. She easily could get a degree but chose to work right away and not rack up debt. The debt gathering was my job!

so in 3 posts you did a complete 180 and now agree with me?

anyways

I have hundreds of friends at the U of I that have degrees/are getting degrees. When I went to ISU, same thing. ISU was a joke. I edited my roommates final paper and it was the worse thing I had ever read. That guy has a degree.

The economics/communication/gen ed/etc... degrees are laughable. Professors don't care anymore, online classes are a huge joke...

employers aren't just going to hire these people out of college when they have zero prior work experience...they are just getting burned by these kids now...because they are too entitled and expect everything to be easy and don't want to work

I honestly predict that in 10-20 years people are going to realize that work experience/a good resume/good professional references are a lot better than an economics degree.

Hell, an associates and an impeccable working resume landed me a pretty sweet gig.