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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.
So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea |
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05-08-2013, 02:33 PM | #1036 | |
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Especially when guys like Flacco in the latter half of the first, Kaepernick in the 2nd or Wilson in the 3rd are becoming just a little more common. It's getting easier to find a 'franchise QB' these days as the rules tilt more and more in favor of the passing game. No, Alex Smith is not likely to be that guy, but I'm also far from convinced that you have to have a 3 win season to get a guy that you can win a SB with. You have to be smart and above all you have to try to find that guy. I think Dorsey and crew understand and agree with that. I think they also busted their asses turning over stones looking for the next big thing and just didn't like what they saw. In the end, they did get a guy that's as talented as anyone that came out of this draft, so that's pretty damn exciting. And when they decided that this wasn't the year to take a big swing at the QB position, they decided not to piss away another prime year from some great players in pursuit of a top 5 overall pick again. They got themselves a competent QB at way too high a cost, IMO. At the same time, they did acquire an NFL caliber starting QB and that's going to be a huge relief. It's going to make Sunday's worth watching again, even if we know the ceiling isn't as high as it could be. I'm tired of shitty football and frankly I'm tired of the assumption that sucking will get you a great QB. Next year's QB class is lukewarm as well - I don't want to go through 3 wins again so I can pick between Teddy Bridgewater and Taj Boyd.
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05-08-2013, 02:41 PM | #1037 | |
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Fans can make their own plans, but one thing they often fail to consider are the team players. The coaches need to have their players pumped with optimism. Guys like Dwayne Bowe might see the F/O bring in a guy like Alex and it makes them feel that hey, maybe these guys are serious about turning things around. Or they can bring in some rookie to develop... and then the vets roll their eyes and think, bleh... rebuilding BS... We're not going anywhere for years, I want out. Still excited for the coming season... |
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05-08-2013, 02:43 PM | #1038 |
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Am I the only one who thinks this team doesn't come close to ten wins this season?
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05-08-2013, 02:47 PM | #1039 |
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Oh, it looks like most people agree with you. Some even sound like they would rather lose out than to win 10 games and get a quick boot out of the playoffs. I have you pegged for 9 wins myself. Then more the next season.
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05-08-2013, 02:48 PM | #1040 | |
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I don't assume that sucking again would guarantee the Chiefs get a guy who can be a franchise QB, because I'm going to have to SEE someone calling the shots for the Chiefs you know, DRAFT a QB before I believe they'll actually do it. And because those guys ARE hard to find. But if they ARE willing to draft a QB, it's sure as hell easier to do it with better draft picks. Is there any Chiefs who wouldn't trade the Chiefs' 7 wins and "competitive" season in 2011 for an 0-16 campaign in which they lost by an average of 21 points, in hindsight?
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I disagree with you 100%. As badly as 2010 ended, I had a WAY more fun during that season than I did these past two and it's not even close.
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05-08-2013, 02:52 PM | #1042 |
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2 wins to 10 wins, doesnt happen often, there is some serious talent on this team though. An organized coaching staff an new life in the organization. I personally think we are gonna see a revived andy reid. He went through some horrible struggles personally with his family. Some time has passed and he seems to be rejuvenated.
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05-08-2013, 02:54 PM | #1043 | |
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This team is really such a crap shoot though because we don't know how Andy plans on running the offense and is the defensive line can be servicable. If Reid plans on throwing over 32 times a game than yeah, we may not win 5-6, if he adjust than we can be average. Last edited by BigCatDaddy; 05-08-2013 at 03:02 PM.. |
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05-08-2013, 02:54 PM | #1044 | |
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You honestly felt the same way in 2010 as you did in 2012? I call bullshit, hoss. As a season ticket holder, for me personally they feel a ton different. I woke up in 2010 interested to see how the day went and excited for a good football game. I remember the elation of piss-pounding the 49ers and that shocker vs SD. There was legitimate excitement for massive swaths of the season, even if we knew it probably wasn't a SB team. In 2012, it was nothing more than a grind. I went to the games because the tickets were paid for and that's it. Sorry, but I think you're simply being dogmatic here. I don't believe you or anyone else that tries to argue that they didn't feel any differently about Chiefs football in 2010 than they did in 2012.
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05-08-2013, 02:57 PM | #1045 | |
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I'm just not there anymore. I've had all the fun I can have with a 10-win season that is going to end in the first round of the playoffs barring something fluky and/or miraculous happening. I'd rather stomach losing a lot while building towards something the right way (read: the same way the rest of the NFL is doing it, or a cutting edge way) than winning 7-10 games and being respectable using a recycled, antiquated approach.
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05-08-2013, 02:57 PM | #1046 | |
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I put them at 9, only because I was generous, looked at 4 games I didn't think they'd win but figured they'd be close and decided I'd give them an extra W. I think it's a 7 win team with ease, more likely an 8 win team and a possible 9 win team. That's 'close' to 10 wins.
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05-08-2013, 03:03 PM | #1047 | |
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I bring this up, only because it was recently discussed here as a way of slamming Alex.
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05-08-2013, 03:04 PM | #1048 | |
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People I work with were all about the Chiefs' chances entering that season, and thought I was crazy for thinking the Chiefs had no chance even if they did manage to scrape into the playoffs. I felt on August 1, 2010 that the Chiefs had literally no shot at winning a playoff game or making a real run. Which is the same way I felt about the Chiefs on August 1, 2012. I was never emotionally checked into 2010, just like I was never emotionally checked into 2012, because I could see a replay of 1992, 1994, 1997, 2003, etc. coming.
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So your argument is that in 1/3 the snaps Smith faced a 8 man front, right?...
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05-08-2013, 03:07 PM | #1050 |
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I hope this post is dripping with irony.
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