Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I want to win every year. I know it is not going to happen. I don't expect to win now with Alex Smith.
Matt Cassel could not be this teams starting QB anymore. There was not a single QB in the draft that was worthy of being our starter either. With those 2 things in mind Reid and Dorsey choose what they deemed as the next best stop gap QB. Yeah Alex may get us to that middle ground 8-8 area. Yeeee ****ing haaa no one wants to be there. I want to win championshipS I want to be in the hunt every year.
I see Alex Smith as a 2 year starter for this team. In the meantime Bray might do something..highly doubt it. We might take one in the middle of the first next draft. We might wait until the following when we have all of our picks who knows.
Bitching and throwing a fit like a lot of posters/people do is not going to help or change a damn thing. It is only going to make those same people feel even worse.
NEWS FLASH:
There can only be 1 out of 32 that win the SB. There is less than 25% of the QBs in the league that are capable of putting a team on their back and winning it all.
If you look at all those numbers and think about it without emotion people would understand that the chances of winning a SB and having one of those QBs while doing it is about the same chances as getting hit by lightning. Those odds are not worth getting that upset about. Chances are the Chiefs like most other teams are here to make a profit. NOT to win a championship. If that happens great if not OH WELL.

If that's the type of owner Clark Hunt is... he can go fist himself. Seriously.

I have suspicions that's the case. That selling "being competitive" and filling Arrowhead is more important to Clark than actually trying to win a championship. There's evidence to suggest otherwise, but it isn't overwhelming.

There are a lot of owners in pro sports who are trying to win championships first. Mark Cuban. Robert Kraft. Jerry Buss. Some of the better examples. If an NFL owner is not in that crowd, considering the even playing field and salary cap and 100 percent shared TV revenue, that guy is an a$$.

If Clark proves to be that type of guy.... I can do without the Chiefs in my life. I hope that isn't the case... but if you're not trying to build towards a championship in the NFL, what the eff is wrong with you?

Clear fact of the matter is that it is nearly impossible to win big in today's NFL WITHOUT the big-time QB. And that you won't CONSISTENTLY win big in today's NFL without that guy. Yet the Chiefs continue to avoid taking shots at the position at all. That is what is so infuriating to so many of us.

Now, maybe they draft a QB in the next draft they think can be the guy. Maybe they're high enough to nab a guy who can be a consistent front-line performer at the position. Drafting a guy in Round 4, 5 or 6 doesn't count. Signing a shithead UDFA like Tyler Bray doesn't count either.

Now, if they take that QB high next year and promptly sever ties with Alex Smith, the argument is over. Maybe that's the plan (though the price they paid for Alex Smith makes is less likely to succeed). But I have seen little and heard little - especially from hearing Clark Hunt talk about the QB position - to suggest otherwise. Everything I've seen and heard indicates they're hitching their wagon to Alex Smith for more than two years.

There might not have been a QB in the draft who could start right away. There might not have been an Andrew Luck ready-made NFL starter. But that wasn't the only option available. Also on the table: Sign a stop-gap FA QB who is better than Cassel, or trade for a cheaper QB who is better than Cassel, and draft a QB who can be developed a little in Rnds. 2, 3.

Instead, they pulled the same approach they've been pulling my entire life. Please don't be surprised if I and many others are skeptical it will work THIS time, or that it was even the right thing to do THIS time.

[whoman69]

Its pathetic when you actually improve to #20

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If that's the type of owner Clark Hunt is... he can go fist himself. Seriously.

I have suspicions that's the case. That selling "being competitive" and filling Arrowhead is more important to Clark than actually trying to win a championship. There's evidence to suggest otherwise, but it isn't overwhelming.

There are a lot of owners in pro sports who are trying to win championships first. Mark Cuban. Robert Kraft. Jerry Buss. Some of the better examples. If an NFL owner is not in that crowd, considering the even playing field and salary cap and 100 percent shared TV revenue, that guy is an a$$.

If Clark proves to be that type of guy.... I can do without the Chiefs in my life. I hope that isn't the case... but if you're not trying to build towards a championship in the NFL, what the eff is wrong with you?

Clear fact of the matter is that it is nearly impossible to win big in today's NFL WITHOUT the big-time QB. And that you won't CONSISTENTLY win big in today's NFL without that guy. Yet the Chiefs continue to avoid taking shots at the position at all. That is what is so infuriating to so many of us.

Now, maybe they draft a QB in the next draft they think can be the guy. Maybe they're high enough to nab a guy who can be a consistent front-line performer at the position. Drafting a guy in Round 4, 5 or 6 doesn't count. Signing a shithead UDFA like Tyler Bray doesn't count either.

Now, if they take that QB high next year and promptly sever ties with Alex Smith, the argument is over. Maybe that's the plan (though the price they paid for Alex Smith makes is less likely to succeed). But I have seen little and heard little - especially from hearing Clark Hunt talk about the QB position - to suggest otherwise. Everything I've seen and heard indicates they're hitching their wagon to Alex Smith for more than two years.

There might not have been a QB in the draft who could start right away. There might not have been an Andrew Luck ready-made NFL starter. But that wasn't the only option available. Also on the table: Sign a stop-gap FA QB who is better than Cassel, or trade for a cheaper QB who is better than Cassel, and draft a QB who can be developed a little in Rnds. 2, 3.

Instead, they pulled the same approach they've been pulling my entire life. Please don't be surprised if I and many others are skeptical it will work THIS time, or that it was even the right thing to do THIS time.

Well what evidence have you ever seen that was more than lip service from Clark.

This offseason was all about getting back some respectability. It was not about trying to win it all. They went out and signed a head coach that is respected league wide. We went out and got a QB that was a 1.1 pick as well as recently in the NFCCG and a SB where he was replaced because of injury which is not suppose to happen.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Well what evidence have you ever seen that was more than lip service from Clark.

This offseason was all about getting back some respectability. It was not about trying to win it all. They went out and signed a head coach that is respected league wide. We went out and got a QB that was a 1.1 pick as well as recently in the NFCCG and a SB where he was replaced because of injury which is not suppose to happen.

Not losing your job because of injury is one of the dumbest unspoken rules ever.

You don't lose the job as the result of injury.
You lose the job because the guy that replaces you shows he's a better player.
The injury just provides the opportunity that he would not have been given otherwise.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by milkman

The injury just provides the opportunity that he would not have been given otherwise.

Wouldn't he have been given the opportunity prior to Harbaugh's first season then? Smith was on a 1 year contract and wasn't apart of the previous regime that led to him being drafted.