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Old 07-31-2013, 05:42 PM   #1
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The lifetime ban is a threat to effectively ban him from the Hall of Fame. He doesn't have that many games in him anyway, but the HOF rules state that a banned player isn't eligible. So, this is MLB saying, "You're not even getting to a HOF vote unless you admit you took roids and go away."
You could say he wouldn't get in anyway, but there's a chance that once Bonds gets in (which he will eventually) the rest of the roid guys could get in, too. So he probably thinks he could still get in the HOF.
My belief anyway.
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:44 PM   #2
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The lifetime ban is a threat to effectively ban him from the Hall of Fame. He doesn't have that many games in him anyway, but the HOF rules state that a banned player isn't eligible. So, this is MLB saying, "You're not even getting to a HOF vote unless you admit you took roids and go away."
You could say he wouldn't get in anyway, but there's a chance that once Bonds gets in (which he will eventually) the rest of the roid guys could get in, too. So he probably thinks he could still get in the HOF.
My belief anyway.
If he is banned for life, he won't go in until Rose's ban is withdrawn, IMO.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:11 PM   #3
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If he is banned for life, he won't go in until Rose's ban is withdrawn, IMO.
None of the steroid suspected users are going into the HOF anytime soon. McGuire/A-Rod/Bonds/Clemons may not get in until after their death.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:14 PM   #4
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None of the steroid suspected users are going into the HOF anytime soon. McGuire/A-Rod/Bonds/Clemons may not get in until after their death.
They should all be given post career lifetime bans effectively banning them from the HOF and their records stricken. Just me though...
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:21 PM   #5
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They should all be given post career lifetime bans effectively banning them from the HOF and their records stricken. Just me though...
I don't not agree.
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They should all be given post career lifetime bans effectively banning them from the HOF and their records stricken. Just me though...
How can you ban them for life when they never tested positive? Convicted in court? Most of their careers it wasn't against the rules?

As I said it seems hypocritical but I'd be okay with lifetime bans for everyone.

You really want to clean up the game? Void their guaranteed contracts if they test positive.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:16 PM   #7
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None of the steroid suspected users are going into the HOF anytime soon. McGuire/A-Rod/Bonds/Clemons may not get in until after their death.
Not one of them should get in the HOF ever. Not because they used steroids, but because they lied about it when questioned and some still continue to deny that they were users.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:19 PM   #8
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Not one of them should get in the HOF ever. Not because they used steroids, but because they lied about it when questioned and some still continue to deny that they were users.
McGwire did admit to using them a few years ago.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:24 PM   #9
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McGwire did admit to using them a few years ago.
After years of denial and outright lying. Go watch video of that ass hat at the congressional hearing and tell me that is someone you want in the HOF.
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Old 07-31-2013, 07:00 PM   #10
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After years of denial and outright lying. Go watch video of that ass hat at the congressional hearing and tell me that is someone you want in the HOF.
He deserves to go in. Lying to a bunch of pompous blowhard liars who were meddling in something that was none of their business doesn't bother me.
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Old 07-31-2013, 07:08 PM   #11
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After years of denial and outright lying. Go watch video of that ass hat at the congressional hearing and tell me that is someone you want in the HOF.
Amen. These asshats deserve shit. Cheat...you are gone. Done. Rose, McGwire, Arod and any of the rest. Cheats in life or sports are still cheats.
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Not one of them should get in the HOF ever. Not because they used steroids, but because they lied about it when questioned and some still continue to deny that they were users.
McGwire never denied it publicly, A-Rod admitted to doing so a few years ago. Clemens/Bonds are the ones that haven't admitted to it.
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McGwire never denied it publicly, A-Rod admitted to doing so a few years ago. Clemens/Bonds are the ones that haven't admitted to it.
McGwire just didn't want to talk about the past. Yes, he's a stand-up guy. If Canseco doesn't write that book, McGwire would still be denying it to this day.

A-Rod admitted that he "inadvertently" used because he took something his cousin said was OK. Now it turns out (if reports are true) that he was actively recruiting others to biogenesis.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:11 PM   #14
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If he is banned for life, he won't go in until Rose's ban is withdrawn, IMO.
If he's banned he's not even eligible.
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The lifetime ban is a threat to effectively ban him from the Hall of Fame. He doesn't have that many games in him anyway, but the HOF rules state that a banned player isn't eligible. So, this is MLB saying, "You're not even getting to a HOF vote unless you admit you took roids and go away."
You could say he wouldn't get in anyway, but there's a chance that once Bonds gets in (which he will eventually) the rest of the roid guys could get in, too. So he probably thinks he could still get in the HOF.
My belief anyway.
its an attempt to prevent him from collection the 150 million he has left on his contract. You know dman well the Yankee's are pushing for that.

He's not gonna get into the hall anyways if he doesnt get banned. Look at Bonds, he's not sniffing it.
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