Greinke Brawls..breaks collarbone

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by thurman merman

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but I was watching this live as it happened on MLB Network. Kemp kept yelling "That's ****ing bullshit!" over and over. Vin Scully goes,
"'That's fertilizer!' says Matt Kemp over and over. 'That's fertilizer!'"

Vin Scully rules.

The best ever. Not even close.

[BlackHelicopters]

Just saw the video. Lower your shoulder? That's your plan?

[-King-]

After seeing that video of Greinke throwing at his head a couple years ago, I don't really blame Quentin anymore. Not saying it was intentional...but I think Quentin did have a valid reason to charge the mound. If someone almost hit my head twice before, I wouldn't take it kindly if they hit me again. Especially if they started talking shit right after they hit me.

[Hootie]

I have a hard time having respect for a guy who acted like a little girl earlier this week when he got hit (Quentin) in the same series...

WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO SWING THE ****ING BAT

when you are in the middle of swinging the bat and you get hit because the ball runs in on you...that means your reactions are shit and you don't have any reason to bitch

THE DUDE LED THE LEAGUE IN HBP LAST YEAR AND HE PLAYED 80 GAMES

He never has the right to charge the mound. Ever. Especially on a full count in a 2-1 game.

[Hootie]

Greinke isn't going to get fined a dime or suspended an out...the idea that that is even in play is absurd.

It'll be pretty hilarious when the suspensions are handed out and Quentin gets at least 8 games and Greinke gets nothing...

then all of the dipshits in this thread will really have nothing else to go on other than the "hey I'm a dipshit, dipshit...dipshit! dipshit! dipshit! and I don't watch baseball and don't understand the game either"...

[sd4chiefs]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

Greinke isn't going to get fined a dime or suspended an out...the idea that that is even in play is absurd.

It'll be pretty hilarious when the suspensions are handed out and Quentin gets at least 8 games and Greinke gets nothing...

then all of the dipshits in this thread will really have nothing else to go on other than the "hey I'm a dipshit, dipshit...dipshit! dipshit! dipshit! and I don't watch baseball and don't understand the game either"...

Nailed it. Quentin suspended 8 games.

http://www.utsandiego.com/

[Brian Jones]

Yeah he "nailed it" because what that spiteful little shit has to say is the gospel. Do your own thinking...or is that too complex?





Carlos Quentin and Zack Greinke have a history.

To fully understand what happened Thursday night at Petco Park, you have to know the history.

“This was more about a personal relationship,” Padres manager Bud Black said Friday as he reflected on the two brawls that erupted in the bottom of the sixth Thursday night after the Dodgers’ Greinke hit Quentin with a pitch.

Quentin rushed the pitcher. In the ensuing melee, Greinke, who lowered his shoulder to block the charging Quentin, suffered a fracture to his left collarbone and is out for an estimated eight weeks.

Quentin was hit with an eight-game suspension Friday night from Major League Baseball. He and Dodgers infielder Jerry Hairston Jr., who got a one-game suspension, will both appeal their suspensions and won’t start serving the suspension until after MLB hears his appeal. Greinke was not suspended and MLB is still reviewing the case of Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp, who also confronted Quentin as the two were leaving the ballpark through the same exit.

Quentin critics, and they were voicing their opinions from every corner of the nation Friday, say the Padres left fielder overreacted. Why would Greinke hit the lead-off hitter with a full-count pitch while protecting a one-run lead in the sixth?

Good point.

But one of the things that earned Greinke a six-year, $147 million contract with the Dodgers last winter is his pinpoint control. When he hit Quentin high on his shoulder, Dodgers catcher A.J. Ellis was set up for a pitch low-and-away. Could Greinke possibly have missed by that much?

Since 2008, Greinke has hit 17 hitters. Three of those were Quentin, who also has three homers in 26 at-bats against Greinke. Coincidence? Greinke has hit Quentin once every 10 plate appearances. His average against everyone else – once every 235 plate appearances.

Quentin does crowd the plate. He waits to the last possible micro-second to give up on a pitch, then he turns his body rather than jumping out of the way. He has been hit 116 times in his major league career. But Thursday was the first time he rushed the mound.

“I understand why I get hit,” Quentin said Friday afternoon in the Padres clubhouse. I understand my approach. I never felt someone was intentionally throwing at me before 2009.”

And that someone happened to be Greinke in a game between the pitcher’s Kansas City Royals and Quentin’s White Sox. Quentin Friday asked everyone to review the tape of that at-bat before passing judgment.

“The first pitch was over my head,” said Quentin of the 2009 incident. “The next pitch was at my face and caught my shoulder when I turned.”

Fast forward to Thursday night. Quentin did step to the front of the plate and stared down Greinke. He said his charge started after Greinke said something “that started with an expletive.”

“I felt I had to protect myself,” said Quentin. “It was an unfortunate situation. I understand someone got hurt. I didn’t go out there until I was provoked.”

Black admitted he was surprised the incident happened. He wasn’t alone.

During the first melee, rival catchers Nick Hundley and A.J. Ellis wound up standing next to each other. “I asked A.J. if he knew what happened,” said Hundley. “He had no idea. I had no idea of the history.”

Mark Kotsay did. He was Quentin’s teammate with the White Sox in 2009. “I knew there was tension,” said Kotsay. “It boiled over. As a hitter, there’s no defense to a ball coming at you at 90 mph.”

This is not the first time something like this happened. Eleven years ago, a major spring training brawl erupted between the Angels and Padres in spring training when Angels pitcher Aaron Sele hit Ryan Klesko in retaliation for a five-year-old home run trot. Andre Dawson once charged Eric Show.

And then there was the spring training brawl between the Padres and Rockies in Tucson in 1998. The benches cleared after Sterling Hitchcock hit two Rockies, including Larry Walker, who had a feud with a former teammate of then Padres pitching coach Dave Stewart.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Brian Jones

Yeah he "nailed it" because what that spiteful little shit has to say is the gospel. Do your own thinking...or is that too complex?





Carlos Quentin and Zack Greinke have a history.

To fully understand what happened Thursday night at Petco Park, you have to know the history.

“This was more about a personal relationship,” Padres manager Bud Black said Friday as he reflected on the two brawls that erupted in the bottom of the sixth Thursday night after the Dodgers’ Greinke hit Quentin with a pitch.

Quentin rushed the pitcher. In the ensuing melee, Greinke, who lowered his shoulder to block the charging Quentin, suffered a fracture to his left collarbone and is out for an estimated eight weeks.

Quentin was hit with an eight-game suspension Friday night from Major League Baseball. He and Dodgers infielder Jerry Hairston Jr., who got a one-game suspension, will both appeal their suspensions and won’t start serving the suspension until after MLB hears his appeal. Greinke was not suspended and MLB is still reviewing the case of Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp, who also confronted Quentin as the two were leaving the ballpark through the same exit.

Quentin critics, and they were voicing their opinions from every corner of the nation Friday, say the Padres left fielder overreacted. Why would Greinke hit the lead-off hitter with a full-count pitch while protecting a one-run lead in the sixth?

Good point.

But one of the things that earned Greinke a six-year, $147 million contract with the Dodgers last winter is his pinpoint control. When he hit Quentin high on his shoulder, Dodgers catcher A.J. Ellis was set up for a pitch low-and-away. Could Greinke possibly have missed by that much?

Since 2008, Greinke has hit 17 hitters. Three of those were Quentin, who also has three homers in 26 at-bats against Greinke. Coincidence? Greinke has hit Quentin once every 10 plate appearances. His average against everyone else – once every 235 plate appearances.

Quentin does crowd the plate. He waits to the last possible micro-second to give up on a pitch, then he turns his body rather than jumping out of the way. He has been hit 116 times in his major league career. But Thursday was the first time he rushed the mound.

“I understand why I get hit,” Quentin said Friday afternoon in the Padres clubhouse. I understand my approach. I never felt someone was intentionally throwing at me before 2009.”

And that someone happened to be Greinke in a game between the pitcher’s Kansas City Royals and Quentin’s White Sox. Quentin Friday asked everyone to review the tape of that at-bat before passing judgment.

“The first pitch was over my head,” said Quentin of the 2009 incident. “The next pitch was at my face and caught my shoulder when I turned.”

Fast forward to Thursday night. Quentin did step to the front of the plate and stared down Greinke. He said his charge started after Greinke said something “that started with an expletive.”

“I felt I had to protect myself,” said Quentin. “It was an unfortunate situation. I understand someone got hurt. I didn’t go out there until I was provoked.”

Black admitted he was surprised the incident happened. He wasn’t alone.

During the first melee, rival catchers Nick Hundley and A.J. Ellis wound up standing next to each other. “I asked A.J. if he knew what happened,” said Hundley. “He had no idea. I had no idea of the history.”

Mark Kotsay did. He was Quentin’s teammate with the White Sox in 2009. “I knew there was tension,” said Kotsay. “It boiled over. As a hitter, there’s no defense to a ball coming at you at 90 mph.”

This is not the first time something like this happened. Eleven years ago, a major spring training brawl erupted between the Angels and Padres in spring training when Angels pitcher Aaron Sele hit Ryan Klesko in retaliation for a five-year-old home run trot. Andre Dawson once charged Eric Show.

And then there was the spring training brawl between the Padres and Rockies in Tucson in 1998. The benches cleared after Sterling Hitchcock hit two Rockies, including Larry Walker, who had a feud with a former teammate of then Padres pitching coach Dave Stewart.

Did you really make an account on a chiefs football forum to post about an altercation between the baseball dodgers and padres?

[Brian Jones]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Did you really make an account on a chiefs football forum to post about an altercation between the baseball dodgers and padres?

why do you ask inconsequential questions when you are nothing?

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Brian Jones

Yeah he "nailed it" because what that spiteful little shit has to say is the gospel. Do your own thinking...or is that too complex?





Carlos Quentin and Zack Greinke have a history.

To fully understand what happened Thursday night at Petco Park, you have to know the history.

“This was more about a personal relationship,” Padres manager Bud Black said Friday as he reflected on the two brawls that erupted in the bottom of the sixth Thursday night after the Dodgers’ Greinke hit Quentin with a pitch.

Quentin rushed the pitcher. In the ensuing melee, Greinke, who lowered his shoulder to block the charging Quentin, suffered a fracture to his left collarbone and is out for an estimated eight weeks.

Quentin was hit with an eight-game suspension Friday night from Major League Baseball. He and Dodgers infielder Jerry Hairston Jr., who got a one-game suspension, will both appeal their suspensions and won’t start serving the suspension until after MLB hears his appeal. Greinke was not suspended and MLB is still reviewing the case of Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp, who also confronted Quentin as the two were leaving the ballpark through the same exit.

Quentin critics, and they were voicing their opinions from every corner of the nation Friday, say the Padres left fielder overreacted. Why would Greinke hit the lead-off hitter with a full-count pitch while protecting a one-run lead in the sixth?

Good point.

But one of the things that earned Greinke a six-year, $147 million contract with the Dodgers last winter is his pinpoint control. When he hit Quentin high on his shoulder, Dodgers catcher A.J. Ellis was set up for a pitch low-and-away. Could Greinke possibly have missed by that much?

Since 2008, Greinke has hit 17 hitters. Three of those were Quentin, who also has three homers in 26 at-bats against Greinke. Coincidence? Greinke has hit Quentin once every 10 plate appearances. His average against everyone else – once every 235 plate appearances.

Quentin does crowd the plate. He waits to the last possible micro-second to give up on a pitch, then he turns his body rather than jumping out of the way. He has been hit 116 times in his major league career. But Thursday was the first time he rushed the mound.

“I understand why I get hit,” Quentin said Friday afternoon in the Padres clubhouse. I understand my approach. I never felt someone was intentionally throwing at me before 2009.”

And that someone happened to be Greinke in a game between the pitcher’s Kansas City Royals and Quentin’s White Sox. Quentin Friday asked everyone to review the tape of that at-bat before passing judgment.

“The first pitch was over my head,” said Quentin of the 2009 incident. “The next pitch was at my face and caught my shoulder when I turned.”

Fast forward to Thursday night. Quentin did step to the front of the plate and stared down Greinke. He said his charge started after Greinke said something “that started with an expletive.”

“I felt I had to protect myself,” said Quentin. “It was an unfortunate situation. I understand someone got hurt. I didn’t go out there until I was provoked.”

Black admitted he was surprised the incident happened. He wasn’t alone.

During the first melee, rival catchers Nick Hundley and A.J. Ellis wound up standing next to each other. “I asked A.J. if he knew what happened,” said Hundley. “He had no idea. I had no idea of the history.”

Mark Kotsay did. He was Quentin’s teammate with the White Sox in 2009. “I knew there was tension,” said Kotsay. “It boiled over. As a hitter, there’s no defense to a ball coming at you at 90 mph.”

This is not the first time something like this happened. Eleven years ago, a major spring training brawl erupted between the Angels and Padres in spring training when Angels pitcher Aaron Sele hit Ryan Klesko in retaliation for a five-year-old home run trot. Andre Dawson once charged Eric Show.

And then there was the spring training brawl between the Padres and Rockies in Tucson in 1998. The benches cleared after Sterling Hitchcock hit two Rockies, including Larry Walker, who had a feud with a former teammate of then Padres pitching coach Dave Stewart.

So to prove your point that people need to do their own thinking, you copy and paste an article written by somebody else? Brilliant!

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

Greinke isn't going to get fined a dime or suspended an out...the idea that that is even in play is absurd.

It'll be pretty hilarious when the suspensions are handed out and Quentin gets at least 8 games and Greinke gets nothing...

then all of the dipshits in this thread will really have nothing else to go on other than the "hey I'm a dipshit, dipshit...dipshit! dipshit! dipshit! and I don't watch baseball and don't understand the game either"...

Nolan Ryan, I believe, was not suspended. Ventura was.

That tells you what will probably happen here.

[Hootie]

Roger Clemens threw a bat at Mike Piazza in a playoff game and Mike Piazza didn't charge the mound because it didn't make sense.

Quentin charging the mound was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. 1 run game? 3-2 count? That's just flat out ABSURD.

[SnakeXJones]

Greinke is just a fragile bitch **** both these teams

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by SnakeXJones

Greinke is just a fragile bitch **** both these teams

yeah he's super fragile he's only pitched 200 innings in 4 of his last 5 with the 1 exception being a 170 IP season.

SO FRAGILE

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

yeah he's super fragile he's only pitched 200 innings in 4 of his last 5 with the 1 exception being a 170 IP season.

SO FRAGILE

Is he going to pitch 200 innings this season?

Why or why not?