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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.
So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea |
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05-14-2013, 11:34 AM | #1876 | |
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The Chiefs are going with a win-now mentality by taking the best free agent QB available. They have rejected the win-big strategy of signing the cheapest bum at QB they could, while building through the draft and gritting out losing seasons while waiting for a franchise QB prospect to come to you in the draft. This is why the Chiefs will never win-big. They chose instant gratification over long-term success. I know it is a business and winning puts butts in the seats, but nothing says Cha-Ching like winning a championship or being a multiple-year contender. |
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05-14-2013, 11:36 AM | #1877 |
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He is right. Every starting QB has to make that throw. Alex won't even take the throw.
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05-14-2013, 11:38 AM | #1878 | |
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05-14-2013, 11:42 AM | #1881 | |
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Andy Reid is no moron. He is trying to keep the owner happy. That keeps him in his job. That buys him time to find a franchise QB later. If he had started a rookie QB and failed to give the owner his minimum wins, then he is fired and game over. Jim Harbaugh had the luxury of immediate trust and 5 years to win a super bowl. Andy Reid isn't getting that trust from the owner, who is demanding immediate gratification in lieu of long term success. It is apples and oranges, but it ends the same eventually -- Alex Smith is expendable. |
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05-14-2013, 11:47 AM | #1882 | |
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05-14-2013, 11:48 AM | #1883 |
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Alex is a top 20 QB in the NFL. All QBs have some weakness. Favre would kill you with to much risk at the critical time.
Alex has his weaknesses and they limit him to mediocrity. Alex Smith should be a starting QB in the NFL. He is far too good to be a back-up QB. But he is a mid-tier starting QB with some unique weaknesses. The example Cossell gave was of a unique weakness in Alex that keeps him solidly in the bottom half of all QBs. Alex is a very good QB. He is a master of the short game, is remarkably intelligent, and still quite athletic. He just has key weaknesses that hold him down to being a bottom half NFL QB. There is no shame in that. I have enormous respect to every starting QB in the NFL, as I do for every player to ever don a set of pads. They all have achieved a level of success in their craft that few humans on earth ever achieve. But Alex will never be elite or anything close to that. He will never exceed mediocrity due to his cautious and over-analytical nature. That is your QB. He can manage a well-coached top roster to a super bowl win but he can't put a team on his shoulders and lead them to one. |
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05-14-2013, 11:53 AM | #1884 | |
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All I know is that Kaepernick was superhuman in practices. Harbaugh was chomping at the bit to see if that translated to actual game play and was looking for ANY opportunity to play Kaepernick beyond the 5-10 WildKeap plays he was playing each game. Kaepernick played lights out vs. Bears on Monday Night Football, and the rest is history. So nobody knows if Alex would have remained starter for the duration of 2012. The Offensive Coordinator stated they had no plan to start Kaepernick pre-Alex concussion. I don't believe anything these guys say in public without a reality check, and even then who is to say they couldn't change their minds? I remain convinced that Harbaugh would have used any pretext at all to start Kaepernick. The concussion just proved to be a timely excuse. |
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05-14-2013, 11:59 AM | #1885 | |
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05-14-2013, 12:00 PM | #1886 |
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Don't trade your #34 2013 pick and your #50-60 2014 pick away for short term gain. You keep those picks and build and build with them while you suffer with a crummy QB you think has upside potential that either other teams missed seeing, or that has potential only your coaching can bring out -- other teams can't develop the guy.
Matt Flynn was a win-big type of move for the Raiders in that they paid nothing for the chance to see if a 7th rounder coached up by Mike McCarthy, studying and practicing next to Aaron Rodgers, can be serviceable. The key is that they paid nothing for him, so they can still use their top picks to build a future win-big team if they draft wisely. The Chiefs went with win-now instant gratification. The Raiders went with a win-big-later solution at the likely cost of sucking for now and remaining viable for high future draft picks where elite QB prospects are found, with a small real chance that Matt Flynn becomes the next Tom Brady. I don't mean elite like Brady, I just mean a 7th rounder who plays for years as a starting QB. I was referencing Brady's 6th round status, not comparing Flynn's lower potential to Brady's elite status. |
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05-14-2013, 12:01 PM | #1887 | |
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05-14-2013, 12:09 PM | #1888 | |
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Screw you. You can't put words in my mouth. I was talking strictly about wasting 2- 2nd round picks the Chiefs need to build a future win-big team. Kaepernick was drafted #36 overall. That shows how stupid your comment was to imply I don't think elite QBs can be drafted later than 10th overall. |
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05-14-2013, 12:17 PM | #1889 | |
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Just use your Alex Smith Fan name and take your hits. Well now Maverick95179 or whatever. You don't need multiple user names. |
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05-14-2013, 12:22 PM | #1890 | |
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