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Old 03-04-2005, 04:40 AM  
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CONTROVERSIAL: Paper due the 11th.
I am writing a series of papers based on the following concept:
Overpopulation: A result of societal immaturity, which is creating the strife on current economies and ecosystems by creating “over-demand” of resources. Overpopulation is a cause of many of our contemporary issues.

This is what I have thusfar.
Discuss points and counterpoints. Please explore the idea thoroughly. The edges are still rough, but I think this type of forum debate could help my papers considerably.

I will post updates as I progress through the week to be sure.



EDIT: This is definitely a rough sketch of my ideas. Please ask me to clarify any points as it will help shape my paper as well.
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Society has evolved based on evolution in three aspects of itself. Government, religious doctrine, and particularly philosophical individuals have all brought society to its current state.
Stages of government (size of government):
Anarchy (0)
Packs (1)
Tribes (2)
Republic (corrupt) (imperialistic)(3) (romans)
Monarchy (imperialistic)(4) (brits, French, Spanish pre WWII)
Fascism (imperialistic)(5) (germans, Italians, Japanese WWII)
Monarchy (4) (brits)
Republic (corrupt) (3) (brits prerevolution)
Socialism (corrupt) (4) (Chinese, Russians Coldwar era)
Democracy (less oppressive republic) (2) (America Today)
(Graph Govt.)
Will the world mature in time to recognize the errors of our compulsive desire to procreate?
Most important factors in underdeveloped maturity:
Societal:
Religious Doctrine
People invoke their religion in an attempt to press their own moralities on others. This slows down the people who choose to explore.
Government
Has become so affected by religion that “because the bible said so” is becoming an acceptable justification for amendments and laws.
Cultural Views
Infanticide, males are superior jargon.
Personal:
Religion
Offers “easy way out” to people, cutting off further exploration.
Many choose just to accept what they are fed.

Certainly Society helps one to grow quickly, however, it also hinders individuals by limiting their further growth by closing off worldviews.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:07 AM   #16
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The main point is that population is headed to 9 billion before starvation starts to kill. That is 150% of our current population. That would be 150% the taxation on the resources and environment.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:07 AM   #17
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They could probably feed the world, regardless. America is greedy and selfish.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:07 AM   #18
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That's garbage. How are they going to kill over 5 billion people?
It may be necessary
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Think, people will be killed by starvation. The massive infanticide of females in china will also contribute to a population curb within the generation as well. The point is that, while technology has allowed us to exceed our normal carrying capacity on earth, it is destroying the earth itself along with our race.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:09 AM   #19
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The main point is that population is headed to 9 billion before starvation starts to kill. That is 150% of our current population. That would be 150% the taxation on the resources and environment.
3 billion people don't get added to the population overnight. You're looking at roughly 50 years before we hit 9 billion. Who knows what happens in that time frame? The moon might be colonized.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:10 AM   #20
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It may be necessary
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Think, people will be killed by starvation. The massive infanticide of females in china will also contribute to a population curb within the generation as well. The point is that, while technology has allowed us to exceed our normal carrying capacity on earth, it is destroying the earth itself along with our race.
Technology will save us. Either that or ****ing aliens.

Starvation is a possiblity I suppose, but I don't see the "global elite" carrying out some scheme to murder billions of people. The revolt would tear the planet apart.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:10 AM   #21
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3 billion people don't get added to the population overnight. You're looking at roughly 50 years before we hit 9 billion. Who knows what happens in that time frame? The moon might be colonized.
Are you suggesting the moon can support 3 billion people? 2075 the world should peak between 9bill and 10 bill according to wilson in the future of life
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It may be necessary
it is highly likely. Although, who has the right to say so, or do so? The last person who tried to eliminate a vast amount of the population was Hitler... then the Abortion Clinics...

Plus you have to factor in that science will soon allow us to fool the death gene for an extended period of time, thus keeping us at a decent physical fitness level, and living upwards of 120-130 years.
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Technology will save us. Either that or ****ing aliens.
technology is one source of the problem. Not the solution.
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it is highly likely. Although, who has the right to say so, or do so? The last person who tried to eliminate a vast amount of the population was Hitler... then the Abortion Clinics...

Plus you have to factor in that science will soon allow us to fool the death gene for an extended period of time, thus keeping us at a decent physical fitness level, and living upwards of 120-130 years.
Im hoping that society can mature to recognize the need to contain our own population be the time that the discovery is available. Coincidently, the majority of species have gestation periods relative to their life span. humans do not anymore... (they used to.) This is another possible source for overpopulation. See Ideas are coming now. I knew this was a good idea
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I have a 6-DVD series on the universe and space... they say that if we could terraform Mars within 120 years....

we start by sending machines to pollute the atmosphere... that will create carbon dioxide... then in 50 years we send trees to be planted... etc...etc...

interesting possibility... considering it would take HOW MANY YEARS to even fly to Mars? Plus when you factor in the Van Allen Radiation Belt, long space travel may not truly be a reality, yet.
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Are you suggesting the moon can support 3 billion people? 2075 the world should peak between 9bill and 10 bill according to wilson in the future of life
The moon is approximately 1/8th the size of the earth, correct? However, there's no water on the moon. I'm no scientist, but I'm guessing the moon is more than capable of supporting 3 billion, maybe more.

How far away is Mars?
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I have a 6-DVD series on the universe and space... they say that if we could terraform Mars within 120 years....

we start by sending machines to pollute the atmosphere... that will create carbon dioxide... then in 50 years we send trees to be planted... etc...etc...

interesting possibility... considering it would take HOW MANY YEARS to even fly to Mars? Plus when you factor in the Van Allen Radiation Belt, long space travel may not truly be a reality, yet.
I believe it was frontierism that also allowed for population expansion in america. people would keep moving west if resources got too low. Again, I will state frontierism to be a cause, not a solution.
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Im hoping that society can mature to recognize the need to contain our own population be the time that the discovery is available. Coincidently, the majority of species have gestation periods relative to their life span. humans do not anymore... (they used to.) This is another possible source for overpopulation. See Ideas are coming now. I knew this was a good idea
yeah, great. Have us do your dirty work. whaddanasshole.
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The moon is approximately 1/8th the size of the earth, correct? However, there's no water on the moon. I'm no scientist, but I'm guessing the moon is more than capable of supporting 3 billion, maybe more.

How far away is Mars?
check my last response to ali chi3fs.
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