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Old 10-26-2005, 05:43 PM   #1
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Exactly what I'm talking about.

Marty didn't play to win.
Seriously, a TD at that point would have put it away.

This is what I am talking about when Chiefs fans complain about Saunders passing the ball in similar situations. We should never be afraid to throw the ball.
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Old 10-26-2005, 05:46 PM   #2
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Seriously, a TD at that point would have put it away.

This is what I am talking about when Chiefs fans complain about Saunders passing the ball in similar situations. We should never be afraid to throw the ball.
People still complain about Saunders passing the ball in the redzone a year ago and it leading to a lucky INT. "You don't throw the ball, hand it to Priest."
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:21 PM   #3
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Seriously, a TD at that point would have put it away.

This is what I am talking about when Chiefs fans complain about Saunders passing the ball in similar situations. We should never be afraid to throw the ball.
Fear is what makes for a weak passing game. As far as the Int goes in that game against Texas, one of these days the Chiefs might try an out and up, where Trent fake pumps on teh quick out, then lobs it up and over the guy who is jumping the play.
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:13 PM   #4
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It was classic Marty Ball.

San Diego's D held on a 4th and 1. The Chargers got the ball at Philly's 30 yard line.

What did they do?

1-10-PHI30 (3:29) L.Tomlinson up the middle to PHI 28 for 2 yards
2-8-PHI28 (3:27) L.Tomlinson right end to PHI 23 for 5 yards
3-3-PHI23 (3:21) L.Tomlinson up the middle to PHI 22 for 1 yard
You forgot the part about 4rth and long one, kick a field goal, Blocked, now I am behind.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:29 PM   #5
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It was classic Marty Ball.

San Diego's D held on a 4th and 1. The Chargers got the ball at Philly's 30 yard line.

What did they do?

1-10-PHI30 (3:29) L.Tomlinson up the middle to PHI 28 for 2 yards
2-8-PHI28 (3:27) L.Tomlinson right end to PHI 23 for 5 yards
3-3-PHI23 (3:21) L.Tomlinson up the middle to PHI 22 for 1 yard
Exactly. That is the same old crapola he used to do in KC when he was here. 1st Down & 10: Let's run the ball up Grunnys azz. 2d Down and 8: Let's throw a screen pass behind the line of scrimmage and hope Anders can get some yards. 3rd and 7: Let's trick em and run the ball up Grunnys azz again....they'll never expect THAT. 4th and 6: Punt.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:36 AM   #6
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I remember this weekend it was 4th down and Bree's and Co. came out and i was like ive seen this before...

They were just trying to get the offsides or encroahment or something.. No Balls to go for it on 4th down
That was always something that pissed me off to no end. They would line up, shift around a couple times, and try to pull them offsides with some hard "hut huts".
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:06 PM   #7
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Anytime you have fourth and short on the opposing team's side of the field,.... Martyball means going for the Field Goal instead of the TD. Playing it safe only adds 3 points no matter how you look at it.
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:23 PM   #8
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I'll tell you a play that might show the difference between the two staffs. The OT win vs. Green Bay a couple years ago. We get a fumble... not in FG range but not super far away from it, we were near midfield. First play, we went deep over the top for the TD and the kill, won the game. Does anyone think Marty would've tried that?
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:48 PM   #9
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I'll tell you a play that might show the difference between the two staffs. The OT win vs. Green Bay a couple years ago. We get a fumble... not in FG range but not super far away from it, we were near midfield. First play, we went deep over the top for the TD and the kill, won the game. Does anyone think Marty would've tried that?

That's one of my favorite Sportbar experiences, and I alluded to that game the other day. It was Maslowski who got the fumble from Green. I had bought all the Packers' fans in the place Grilled Cheese sandwiches when the the Chiefs were losing... swearing to them that Green Bay would fall. They all had to eat their grilled cheese.
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:52 PM   #10
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I'll tell you a play that might show the difference between the two staffs. The OT win vs. Green Bay a couple years ago. We get a fumble... not in FG range but not super far away from it, we were near midfield. First play, we went deep over the top for the TD and the kill, won the game. Does anyone think Marty would've tried that?
Excellent example. I remember that play and thought the same thing, WOW, they go for the throat these days.
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Old 10-26-2005, 06:57 PM   #11
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I am certain, that Marty wakes up in the middle of the night with cold sweats, always the same nightmare.

The scoreboard reads 3 point lead and 5:00 to go in the Fourth, now what the fug am I GONNA DO. The clock isn't ticking, the players are playing but the clock isn't ticking, how do I get that time off the clock before, before, it isn't ticking , OMG BAMMM he wakes up in the cold sweats.

Takes him about an hour to settle, goes for the shot of Nyquil, takes a pee, then goes back to bed, tosses and turns, can't sleep; so he goes down to his office, turns on the film and grinds. Poor bastard, I almost feel sorry for him. Just not on our time anymore dammit.
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Old 10-26-2005, 07:00 PM   #12
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So he gets the ball and is in FG range and you terd think he should go deep when a FG seals the deal?
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Old 10-26-2005, 07:08 PM   #13
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So he gets the ball and is in FG range and you terd think he should go deep when a FG seals the deal?
Dude, he did the same thing agains the Jets in the playoff game, they missed the FG.

He is haunted by "The Fumble". He doesn't ever want that to happen again, and it has hamstrung his decision making at critical junctures of the game.

He should just say fug it, I am gonna go for it on fourth down and one on the other teams side of the field regardless of the situation for a whole season, just so he won't second guess, see how good it feels, then move on with his life.

How come the Tuna, when he was with the Giants, always went for it on 4rth and one, and usually got the first?

He just has to look at those players and say, I trust you guys, don't let me down. Now go get the job done.
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Old 10-26-2005, 07:09 PM   #14
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Dude, he did the same thing agains the Jets in the playoff game, they missed the FG.

He is haunted by "The Fumble". He doesn't ever want that to happen again, and it has hamstrung his decision making at critical junctures of the game.

He should just say fug it, I am gonna go for it on fourth down and one on the other teams side of the field regardless of the situation for a whole season, just so he won't second guess, see how good it feels, then move on with his life.

How come the Tuna, when he was with the Giants, always went for it on 4rth and one, and usually got the first?

He just has to look at those players and say, I trust you guys, don't let me down. Now go get the job done.
Said it so much better than me!
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Old 10-26-2005, 07:15 PM   #15
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Said it so much better than me!
Martyball drove me away from the Chiefs for a few years. I just couldn't take the chit anymore. He picked a fine time to leave me Lucille, "resigned" right when we are on the downs of a cycle, then lands in San Diego. Fug that ashat.
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