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Do you even understand anything about music publishing? Anything at all? The composer is the person that allows a parody to be made, not the artist. Some publishing contracts have a clause in which the songwriter can choose when and where his work can be used and others do not. Anyone with any "power" or leverage can absolutely decide whether or not their song can be used in an alcohol, tobacco, parody, commercial advertising, etc. If not, the publishing companies decides for them. In most cases, serious artists don't want their music to be parodied, by Weird Al or anyone else. In the case of older songwriters, those provisions weren't put into their original contracts so they have no power over the publishing company. |
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I've never paid any attention to Weird Al because quite frankly, I don't find it funny.
But I just took a look at all of the songs in his career that he's parodied and there are very few by serious artists. Now, his Polka Medley's are different. Those aren't parodies, they're cover songs done in a completely different style than originally recorded, much like Paul Anka's (IMO, awesome) album, Rock Swings, in which hit songs are re-recorded and re-imagined as big band swing tracks. In the case of a medley, all he had to do was request a license from the Harry Fox Agency. No composer or publishers permission was necessary. |
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Gotta disagree, plenty of serious artists, and further plenty of serious hits even when by more fly by night artists.
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there was a period about 75% of the way in that I really liked - and it lasted for about 50 seconds - aside from that it was awful and I really like Prince.
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Also, keep in mind that in many cases, the publisher controls every aspect of song usage, other than mechanical or cover licensing, so even if the original songwriter or artist didn't want their song parodied, if a provision for such uses didn't exist, the publisher makes the decision, regardless of the songwriter(s) or Artist's position. And I will re-iterate, once again: Most artists and songwriters don't want their songs parodied, by anyone, including Weird Al. |
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12-09-2015, 05:12 PM | #25 |
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I remember Coolio bitched about Amish Paradise.
Yeah, but I bet you didn't complain about the royalties check.
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Really? I recall some artists recognizing it as a sign that they've really made it in the industry. Like a badge or honor.
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First off, the song sampled a Stevie Wonder tune, so right off the top, 50% is out the door. Stat rate in 1996 was 6.95 cents per song, so Weird Al and Coolio would have each had 25%, 1.75 cents, but that's before 25% publishing and 25% for the Controlled Composition Clause, which is in effect until the first 1,000,000 copies were sold. The record sold just a little under 2 million copies, so if there wasn't a Song Cap, Coolio earned approximately $27k from that song, give or take a few thousand. Edit: Holy crap! I just read an interview in Rolling Stone with Cooli0 in which he states that Stevie Wonder retained 95% of the publishing for that song. That pretty much changes everything and the publishing royalties to Coolio and Weird Al would have been essentially non-existent. Last edited by DaneMcCloud; 12-09-2015 at 05:42 PM.. |
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