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Old 10-10-2010, 08:59 PM   #1
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You are completely missing the point of all this. No one here thinks Brodie could be the future here. People just want to see something different. Croyle has a live arm, Cassel does not. They need to try something. Its obvious this Cassel experiment is not working.
You are missing the numerous posts I have stated I am fine with Croyle starting.

I just think it's the same thing except an injury away from going back to the same thing.

I would love to be wrong though.
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Old 10-10-2010, 08:38 PM   #2
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There's 1 legitimate case for not handing the team to Croyle at this point. He might actually succeed.

What if Croyle comes in and plays well? Plays well enough to get us into the play-offs? Sign him to a new contract? So our QB next year for our up and coming play-off team is Brokie Frayle?

The last thing we want is for Croyle to look good enough that the front office wants to move forward with him. If he was gonna be the guy, he needed to be the guy before now.

At the risk of sounding like I'm cashing it in this season, when it comes to QBs I want this team to flush in the spring of 2011.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:01 PM   #3
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There's 1 legitimate case for not handing the team to Croyle at this point. He might actually succeed.

What if Croyle comes in and plays well? Plays well enough to get us into the play-offs? Sign him to a new contract? So our QB next year for our up and coming play-off team is Brokie Frayle?

The last thing we want is for Croyle to look good enough that the front office wants to move forward with him. If he was gonna be the guy, he needed to be the guy before now.

At the risk of sounding like I'm cashing it in this season, when it comes to QBs I want this team to flush in the spring of 2011.
You make very valid points. When Pioli and Haley came here, if they really thought Croyle could be developed into a starter they would have done so. But their assessment is that Brodie is nothing more than a b/u.

So at best I see them using Brodie as a motivator "possibly" on a very "short lease" regardless of Croyle's play. I say "possibly" because we really haven't seen Pioli's ego put in a position until now to either 'do what it takes to win and make common sense decisions in the time of crisis or just continue to "pad the ego in denial and try to force a round peg in a square hole".

Damn guarantee you this is Pioli's decision and not Haley's. Pioli comes from the Parcells tree and Parcells wasn't afraid to shake the "apple cart". I predict that Cassel will get the Houston game and that will be it if Cassel doesn't show significant progress.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:28 PM   #4
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Myth #1: He will just get hurt.

If that's the case WTF is he our #2 then? If Cassel gets hurt he is going in, so what then?
Because Brodie coming and playing a game or two is completely different from benching Cassel and making him a starter. He'll get hurt eventually, then we will be back to where we started and have no viable backup. It simply won't accomplish anything.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:29 PM   #5
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we have 3 backup QB's on our team...It doesnt matter who starts and Cassel has proven he can stay healthy.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:30 PM   #6
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I actually would love to see Croyle get a chance. When he's tried before, we've had an offensive line that was about as effective as a slight breeze. I'd love to see what he could do when he's not getting slammed to the ground every other play.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:32 PM   #7
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I actually would love to see Croyle get a chance. When he's tried before, we've had an offensive line that was about as effective as a slight breeze. I'd love to see what he could do when he's not getting slammed to the ground every other play.
Like in preseason, when he was hurt, again?

He's more talented than Cassel, for sure, but I don't think Croyle is an NFL player, as I've said numerous times.
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Like in preseason, when he was hurt, again?

He's more talented than Cassel, for sure, but I don't think Croyle is an NFL player, as I've said numerous times.
Our OL didn't look near this good in preseason. And I don't think he is either, but I do think he's got just as good of a chance at it as Cassel.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:34 PM   #9
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Our OL didn't look near this good in preseason. And I don't think he is either, but I do think he's got just as good of a chance at it as Cassel.
At this point, I'm for trying because, as you allude here, I don't think there's much downside and there definitely isn't a talent dropoff.

Perhaps we'd catch lightning? But it would be just that, temporary. Need a new option for '11.
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At this point, I'm for trying because, as you allude here, I don't think there's much downside and there definitely isn't a talent dropoff.

Perhaps we'd catch lightning? But it would be just that, temporary. Need a new option for '11.
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Our OL didn't look near this good in preseason. And I don't think he is either, but I do think he's got just as good of a chance at it as Cassel.
Here in lies the problem. At this point I don't care who we run out there. I am starting to pine for something different just so it's different, which isn't good.
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The thing is, if Cassel don't get his shit together like next week he is going to lose this offense.
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The thing is, if Cassel don't get his shit together like next week he is going to lose this offense.
If?

Is that a serious statement?
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