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Old 06-06-2012, 06:45 AM  
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Would the OKC Thunder had been as successful if they were in KC?
Re-reading the below thread and their recent success got me thinking about this.......could it have been the same in KC? IM gonna say no. OKC was lightening in a bottle.......They had no pro sports and the city has really rallied behind them. But who knows.....whats your take?




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Old 06-06-2012, 08:00 AM   #16
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KANSAS CITY-OMAHA KINGS
Season GP Total Avg.
1972-73 41 261,860 6,387
1973-74 41 232,692 5,675
1974-75 41 308,906 7,534

KANSAS CITY KINGS
Season GP Total Avg.
1975-76 41 272,675 6,651
1976-77 41 330,526 8,062
1977-78 41 315,722 7,701
1978-79 41 442,354 10,789
1979-80 41 375,387 9,156
1980-81 41 336,585 8,209
1981-82 41 280,564 6,843
1982-83 41 340,359 8,301
1983-84 41 370,270 9,031
1984-85 41 262,812 6,410


ONLY ONE SEASON did they even do an avg of over 10,000



They clearly didn't support the team.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:01 AM   #17
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KANSAS CITY-OMAHA KINGS
Season GP Total Avg.
1972-73 41 261,860 6,387
1973-74 41 232,692 5,675
1974-75 41 308,906 7,534

KANSAS CITY KINGS
Season GP Total Avg.
1975-76 41 272,675 6,651
1976-77 41 330,526 8,062
1977-78 41 315,722 7,701
1978-79 41 442,354 10,789
1979-80 41 375,387 9,156
1980-81 41 336,585 8,209
1981-82 41 280,564 6,843
1982-83 41 340,359 8,301
1983-84 41 370,270 9,031
1984-85 41 262,812 6,410


ONLY ONE SEASON did they even do an avg of over 10,000



They clearly didn't support the team.
Yes, because those figures are clearly relevant 30 years later.

You might want to check what players the Kings drafted and signed over those years as well. The management might have well been actively trying to run the franchise in to the ground.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:03 AM   #18
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Yes, because those figures are clearly relevant 30 years later.

You might want to check what players the Kings drafted and signed over those years as well. The management might have well been actively trying to run the franchise in to the ground.
Dude, all I'm saying is they didn't support the team, when they had a chance.

I'm not saying they wouldn't support them NOW, but I was clearly right when I said they DIDN'T support the team in the PAST. Admit it and move on.
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The casual KU fans would flock to a successful NBA team pretty quickly.

The people that don't care about the Chiefs and Royals because they suck would also flock to a successful NBA team.
Im not sure there are enough Non Chiefs and Royals sportsfans in KC to support a pro basketball team?

I do believe there are a lot Chiefs fans who are anti-NBA fans in KC if this board is any indication. Small sample size I know.....

Sporting News have become pretty successful, but im willing to bet that’s a different fan entirely than NBA fan.

OKC has been sort of unique. They were obviously an underserved market and starving for a Pro team. KC just isn’t in that boat.
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Sporting News have become pretty successful, but im willing to bet that’s a different fan entirely than NBA fan.
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Im not sure there are enough Non Chiefs and Royals sportsfans in KC to support a pro basketball team?

I do believe there are a lot Chiefs fans who are anti-NBA fans in KC if this board is any indication. Small sample size I know.....

Sporting News have become pretty successful, but im willing to bet that’s a different fan entirely than NBA fan.

OKC has been sort of unique. They were obviously an underserved market and starving for a Pro team. KC just isn’t in that boat.
There are quite a few Yankees/Steelers/KU fans that live in Johnson County that would love to hitch their wagon to a winning NBA team.
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NO. They didn't support the team when they had one.
A lot of cities that have teams now have lost one in the past. This is the dumbest reasoning against an NBA team I hear. So what if kc lost a basketball team 40 years ago? A lot has changed since then.

KC would have supported the thunder likely more than OKC would.
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A lot of cities that have teams now have lost one in the past. This is the dumbest reasoning against an NBA team I hear. So what if kc lost a basketball team 40 years ago? A lot has changed since then.

KC would have supported the thunder likely more than OKC would.
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What I did say is, when they had a team they didn't support them. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's my OPINION, that KC wouldn't have supported the Thunder as much as OKC has. I base the opinion on something tangiable like past attendance records, not on "Things change."

No shit, things change, but that isn't something tangiable like attendence records. That's just a guess on your part.
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That's just it. They weren't winners before arriving in OKC. OKC supported them before waiting until they made a conference championship.

Waiting until they make a conference championship, isn't support. It's band-wagon.
They only had one losing season in OKC, which was the inaugural season. I'm sure KC would have waited one year.

I'm not sure what your point is. If your saying the jury is still out on whether OKC will "support" the team after the KD and Westbrook years, then I agree. However, KD is only 23 years old.
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Im not sure there are enough Non Chiefs and Royals sportsfans in KC to support a pro basketball team?

I do believe there are a lot Chiefs fans who are anti-NBA fans in KC if this board is any indication. Small sample size I know.....

Sporting News have become pretty successful, but im willing to bet that’s a different fan entirely than NBA fan.

OKC has been sort of unique. They were obviously an underserved market and starving for a Pro team. KC just isn’t in that boat.
There are anti-NBA fans because you don't have a team. I met plenty of those people in OKC before the Hornets.
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What I did say is, when they had a team they didn't support them. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's my OPINION, that KC wouldn't have supported the Thunder as much as OKC has. I base the opinion on something tangiable like past attendance records, not on "Things change."

No shit, things change, but that isn't something tangiable like attendence records. That's just a guess on your part.
Because the NBA of today compares readily with the NBA of the 70s.
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I agree KC would have supported the Thunder, but not more than OKC. My grandmother watches these games on the edge of her seat, and she has never watched sports in her life.
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They only had one losing season in OKC, which was the inaugural season. I'm sure KC would have waited one year.

I'm not sure what your point is. If your saying the jury is still out on whether OKC will "support" the team after the KD and Westbrook years, then I agree. However, KD is only 23 years old.
OKC also supported the New Orleans Hornets, during Katrina and that's what got the NBA's attention.

The Thunder was the Seattle Super Sonics and they were hardly a contender in recent years.
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OKC also supported the New Orleans Hornets, during Katrina and that's what got the NBA's attention.

The Thunder was the Seattle Super Sonics and they were hardly a contender in recent years.
When they drafted Durant the expectations instantly rose.
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OKC also supported the New Orleans Hornets, during Katrina and that's what got the NBA's attention.

The Thunder was the Seattle Super Sonics and they were hardly a contender in recent years.
I'm still not sure what your point is. I was there during the Hornets years and attended many games. When you transition from Chris Paul to Kevin Durant, it's easy to stay excited about the NBA.
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