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Mellinger: In the end, Jackson, DeVito do the dirty work for Chiefs’ defense
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10-31-2013, 10:09 AM | #16 | |
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You didn't even watch Tyson Jackson his first few years. Poe and Jackson weren't even close to the same kind of player their rookie years. Poe looked promising, we were singing his praises LAST season. Jackson was routinely getting blown off the LoS...sometimes by several yards. Jackson got the bust label because...well....he looked like a ****ing bust, scheme had nothing to do with his shitty play. And Poe was "attacking" in college? The ****? Last edited by ToxSocks; 10-31-2013 at 10:21 AM.. |
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10-31-2013, 10:35 AM | #17 | |
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He was constantly told to go get the passer. That was his job. He wasn't seen in college as a 3-4 nose. He was seen as a 4-3 1 technique. He was compared to Warren Sapp for christs sake. His ability as a nose tackle is just because he is special. He is Vince Wilfork when used correctly. Tyson Jackson was never asked to be a run stuffer in college. He also didn't play the 5 technique in a 3-4 in college. He was much like Dorsey, a dt in the 4-3 where his job was to rush the passer. He is playing more to that now. Not just looking to stop the run. No matter how you look at it, he was overdrafted. Im not arguing that. But, drafting a guy that high, and asking him to do something he was never asked to do, is asking for trouble. period.
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10-31-2013, 10:47 AM | #18 | |
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I don't care what scheme Jackson was accustomed to playing in, the guy was manhandled and looked bad. Period. End of story. 43 or 34, doesn't matter. If you're getting your ass blown off the line of scrimmage and being run on and unable to hold your ground 1v1, no scheme is going to change that. You've been a Chiefs fan for 8 games. Please don't come in here and tell me about how players were playing 3-4 years ago. |
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11-01-2013, 07:07 AM | #19 |
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We are gonna have to sign Tyson Jackson to a long term deal.
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11-01-2013, 07:15 AM | #20 | |
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They were solid before adding Houston and Poe. They were trending upwards and then 2012 happened and that was the least creative team I've ever seen. Both sides of the ball were incredibly vanilla and easy to beat up on. No deception. No theatrics... just playing straight up and getting their asses kicked the whole time. We were playing checkers against chess. Taking a knife to a gunfight. Romeo really is the worst HC I've ever seen in KC. There really is no reason the team should have been that bad. I don't think they could have been THIS good until THIS season though. |
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11-01-2013, 07:16 AM | #21 |
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For those of you saying Jackson was picked too high, who should Pioli have picked?
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11-01-2013, 08:01 AM | #22 |
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Exactly! The only players I think you could argue that he could/should have drafted instead would be Raji or Orakpo. Clay Matthews wasn't going to go that high. It really is turning out to be an ok pick.
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I'd say out of the choice of those 3 + Jackson versus the rest of the dreck in that draft – I'm okay with Jackson.
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11-01-2013, 08:12 AM | #26 |
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Cushing is the Moeaki of linebackers. If we took raji, probably no Poe. If we took orakpo, maybe no Houston
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11-01-2013, 08:19 AM | #27 |
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Not to mention raji has gotten worse each year
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11-01-2013, 08:24 AM | #28 |
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Really hoping that Jackson stays here. He and DeVito are a major reason that our Linebackers and Safeties, as well as the pass rushers, are able to make so many plays.
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Orakpo has been dealing with quite a few injuries recently too. I'm good with Houston.
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Tyson was not a great pick. Even with how he's playing he's not worth his salary, but oh well. He's turning into an asset so if they can sign him for fair value and he keeps from regressing then great. Its a give and take without our excellent LBs, and good secondary, Jackson would be meaningless. Those guys would still make plays even if Jackson sucked (as evidenced by the fact they literally ****ing did that when Jackson did suck). |
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