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Old 01-08-2009, 10:08 AM   #1
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It's also hard to imagine Drew Bees' face without that giant mole on it, but that doesn't mean everybody is glad it's there.

IMO Peterson could have left after 10 years and perhaps left a bit of a legacy. What the Chiefs became in the 90s was certainly a positive thing. However, after another 10 years of stagnation, he sullied any good will he had earned. Most GMs don't get the opportunity to see eras like the Marty era and the Vermeil era in the same stint, because most GMs wouldn't survive over a decade that contained only 2 play-off wins.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:11 AM   #2
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The fact that he "lasted" says more about the owner than it does CP.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:42 AM   #3
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He'll be remembered because he "lasted" ? Really ? Really ?

How many people are still talking about Sadam Husein ? Not very damn many.

Just because you're an insane tyrant and the people around you are dumb enough to leave you in power for far too long, does not mean you'll be forever remembered.

Now if we have to string Carl up and hang him from Arrowhead's third deck at 2 am, and then release a grainy cell phone video of the event, just to shut Gretz and Rufus up, well.... I'm in.

Rufus : you, Gretz, and Carl can all GTFO and take your fail with you !

It's real real easy to look at football history and tell who will be, and how to be, forever remembered. It's called unbelievable success, especially in the face of great odds. Mr. Peterson is void of this. Plain & simple.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:45 AM   #4
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If Carl is Mozart, what are coaches like Billichek who have won multiple SB's? Are they God status?
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:35 AM   #5
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I think Peterson did a good job up until the 2003 season.

After that year, he led the Chiefs parading around Honululu as if they had just won the Super Bowl, and like the would win it in 2004 just because they finally jettisoned Greg Robinson.

Then Peterson showed his true dumbazz by proclaiming his undying public love for George W. B*sh and Dick Cheney.

You have to figure that when an NFL GM starts spouting off about how much he admires the leadership of the most incompetent lying sacks of in our nation's history and invites them to team banquets and training camp when most of the NFL players are African-american and capable of figuring out that B*sh and Cheney are incompetent lying sacks of , you have to know that team is headed nowhere.

Herm Edwards biggest failing is that he does not practice the team hard enough and the team accepts losing under his leadership.

Herm Edwards' history mimicked Peterson. In 2007, when the Chiefs were a surprising 4-3 going into the bye week, Edwards gave the team the week off to celebrate being 4-3 and then Edwards made the rounds of national talk radio braggin' about how good a job he was doing coaching a team that everybody thought was horrible based on the Hard Knocks episodes.

Since that victory tour, Edwards has gone 2-23. If Edwards is fired, the team will pick up 5 wins automatically because they will practice harder and have a greater fear of losing. Under Edwards, the Chiefs players did not work hard enough at practice and did not fear losing enough to try their very best.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:47 AM   #6
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It must have been very hard for Peterson to alienate himself from the press. I mean, the guy resurrected the franchise and made Arrowhead a fan friendly place and a great home field advantage. The media should have been lapping his balls.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:46 PM   #7
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Quote:Rufus: "I’ve often wondered what it was that turned the media off."


Well, it's been widely reported that he constantly cut out articles from the Star and sent them to the newspaper writers with his corrections of their "mistakes". That may have something to do with it.

This is my favorite comment about the article on Bob's website...


January 7, 2009 - shaneo69 says:
Why not give Rufus his due instead of posting this under “Anonymous”?

Carl really failed on that 5 year plan. That’s what I’ll remember the most about him. Well, that and the propaganda site he called kcchiefs.com.

Bob, will you be joining Carl in Miami?
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:53 PM   #8
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It must have been very hard for Peterson to alienate himself from the press. I mean, the guy resurrected the franchise and made Arrowhead a fan friendly place and a great home field advantage. The media should have been lapping his balls.
He didn't have to alienate himself from the press. He would have been better off ignoring the press and spent all of his time working on making the team better, instead he was thin skinned and played hard ass with the media setting up an adversarial relationship. Carl has no one to blame but himself regarding his relationship with the press.

In turn, the media has no obligation to "lap his balls". They have an obligation to write/report news, break stories and provide opinion on the operation. If it is positive it is positive, if it is negative it is negative.

Carl did some good things early in his career with the Chiefs, but whatever goodwill he built up early disappeared for multiple reasons most of which are his fault.
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