ARGH! OK, I need opinions please...

[chagrin]

dude, that is just too weird. Is the employer totally eccentric? If not, then something's up.

[Iowanian]

My Red flag is up big time....

There is NO WAY, that guy isn't trying for some sammich action.

When you see her boss....will he look you square in the eye and have a reasonably normal conversation?

I think if she goes, you should put some glowgerm on her unmentionables, and meet them at the airport, with a black light.

[Braincase]

All expenses paid includes a sitter/nanny for the kids, right?

I would have to say that she shouldn't... and I know that if my wife and I were in a situation like that, she would choose not to go, and then we'd go do the same things together anyway.

[King_Chief_Fan]

A lot of advice given here.....you got to sort out what works and what doesn't among all those opinions.

On the other hand, you sound more whinney about having to be Mr. Mom .......welcome to the life of most woment in America who have to shuttle kids here there everywhere and do it alone while the hubby is on a business trip.

Your concern is just as valid without the woe is me I have to take care of the children piece of it.

[Rain Man]

So....

for all of you saying that Vegas Dave should say no, let's reverse the situation.


Your boss, or a key supplier for you self-employed folks, is female. Almost all of your coworkers are male. The boss tells everyone that, as an end-of-year reward, she wants to take all of you camping and fishing for a week at Lake Powell, or Alaska, or some other cool place. No spouses allowed.

You guys would all turn that down?

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

So....

for all of you saying that Vegas Dave should say no, let's reverse the situation.


Your boss, or a key supplier for you self-employed folks, is female. Almost all of your coworkers are male. The boss tells everyone that, as an end-of-year reward, she wants to take all of you camping and fishing for a week at Lake Powell, or Alaska, or some other cool place. No spouses allowed.

You guys would all turn that down?

What does my boss look like?

[PastorMikH]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

So....

for all of you saying that Vegas Dave should say no, let's reverse the situation.


Your boss, or a key supplier for you self-employed folks, is female. Almost all of your coworkers are male. The boss tells everyone that, as an end-of-year reward, she wants to take all of you camping and fishing for a week at Lake Powell, or Alaska, or some other cool place. No spouses allowed.

You guys would all turn that down?

I would turn it down first of all out of respect for my wife. I think the biggest thing I struggle with is that there isn't a choice. The proviso "No Spouses Allowed" is what gets me. Now, I would have no problem with, "If your spouses go, they pay their own way" - in that case I wouldn't even have a problem with "Hey, you go, I'll watch the kids here". It's that "No Spouses Allowed" stipulation that bothers me.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

So....

for all of you saying that Vegas Dave should say no, let's reverse the situation.


Your boss, or a key supplier for you self-employed folks, is female. Almost all of your coworkers are male. The boss tells everyone that, as an end-of-year reward, she wants to take all of you camping and fishing for a week at Lake Powell, or Alaska, or some other cool place. No spouses allowed.

You guys would all turn that down?

I was going to say the same thing, except I don't believe the gender of the boss has any bearing. You should be able to trust your wife to not fuck her boss on the trip or anywhere else for that matter. If she's an adulterous slut, it's time for a divorce anyway.

As someone who's been on several "man only" trips provided by business contacts, I see this from a different viewpoint. There's nothing wrong with spending time away from your spouse on occasion. In fact, I'd say it makes a marriage healthier.

It sounds to me like you're just pissed that you'll be saddled with all the kids/housework for a week. To me, that's a small price to pay to allow your wife to get what's possibly a once in a lifetime experience for her. If she wants to go, you need to man up, sacrifice a little, and give her what she wants. Then the next time you're buddies are planning that golf outing to the coast, she has no good reason to keep you from going.

[Iowanian]

It sounds to me like SHE is either Selfish or up to something too.

She has responsibilites at home, and the fact you say this is a trip you BOTH have talked about....no reasonable, thoughtfull wife/husband would go without the other.

"Hey Brideowanian, I'm off to the Bahamas with Jenny Gump for a work outting..no work, but only ladies from Work and I are going"

Maybe you should tell her that all your Friends who work down at Hooters and Cheetahs are going to be coming over for a slumber party while she's gone.


"Oh mah gawd vegas Dave...I was just watching the new Girls gone wild, NYC video and I think I saw...................."

maybe its HER that wants to travel with those young single women to try to score them without the family?

[Dartgod]

I guess I'm in the minority too. I would make it her decision and if she wants to go, then so be it. If trust is an issue, then your marriage isn't worth crap to begin with.

[KC Dan]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I guess I'm in the minority too. I would make it her decision and if she wants to go, then so be it. If trust is an issue, then your marriage isn't worth crap to begin with.

I agree. If you love something, set it free. If it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it!

[Chiefnj]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I guess I'm in the minority too. I would make it her decision and if she wants to go, then so be it. If trust is an issue, then your marriage isn't worth crap to begin with.

Dartgod hit the nail on the head. The first issue is trust. If you trust her, then you should leave it up to her. She should recognize the child care situation and your work demands and try to work it out with you.

It seems unfair that he let the single women decide if spouses should go. Perhaps if all the married women asked if husbands could come if they pay their own airfare, etc., he'll let them.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Dartgod hit the nail on the head. The first issue is trust. If you trust her, then you should leave it up to her. She should recognize the child care situation and your work demands and try to work it out with you.

It seems unfair that he let the single women decide if spouses should go. Perhaps if all the married women asked if husbands could come if they pay their own airfare, etc., he'll let them.

I would also point out that my wife would most likely turn it down. But if she wanted to go I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Katipan]

i'll read what everyone wrote after i post...

but i'd do everything in my power to let my spouse have such a wonderful trip. work.. babysitters... kids... sounds like a typical day in a lot of women's lives. i have every faith you could do it for a week.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Vegas_Dave

My wife works for an orthodontist. As with many dental practices, it is mainly a female environment. In this case, between his 2 offices, the only 2 guys who work there are himself and the other orthodontist he employs.

Most of the women in this office are single and frankly, most of them are downright b*tches.

So the doctor (who is LDS) always like to treat his women to something big at the end of the year. Last year, it was take them all to Celine Dion and a REALLY expensive dinner and then give them each about $1000 that they had to spend on themselves at the Forum at Ceasars.

Sounds great...

This year, I find out that he wants to take all of them to New York for a week, all expenses and shows paid.

Wow, sounds like a nice guy...

Wait for it...

Spouses are not allowed.

This is not a selfish why cant I go thing with me. But my wife and I have 2 very youung boys, 1 & 3 years old. I work my ass off running my family business. She and I have wanted to go to New York together for quite a while. Also, lets keep in mind that she does not get along with most of the women in her office.

Not to mention that in my opinion, any big thing like that or employee party should always be spouses invited (since I am an employer myself).

So is it bad of me to be opposed to her going? Am I wrong in thinking, OK, my wife goes to New York without me, somewhere we have wanted to go together, and I have to work my ass off at work, spend a total of 2 hours per day for a week trekking my 2 boys all over town for babysitting, not to mention then having to be the sole provider for them every waking moment during that time while she is having a blast, Without her husband...

serious opinions needed....

I seriously could bunch the shit out of my walls right now.

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