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Old 04-21-2008, 01:33 PM  
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If the Chiefs take Matt Ryan, what happens to all our QBs?
What do you think happens next season? Herm does the usual "open competition" for the starting job? Will Brodie still (at least temporarily) win the starting job? Does Huard get sent to the glue factory? Does Huard start the season as we wait for Ryan to get acquainted with the team and the NFL? Do Brodie, Ryan, and Huard get their legs broken and Tyler Thigpen steps in during the preason and lights things up?
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:25 PM   #46
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Want me to be honest, you don't see it talked about much but I believe there is a legit chance of the first 4 picks being..



Ellis, the Raiders organization has major ties to SC


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Old 04-21-2008, 03:25 PM   #47
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I think in this situation, you definitely keep Croyle and Thiggy and lose Huard.

Croyle has the tools of a good backup anyway. He's smart, he's got a good arm, the team likes him and now he's got a decent amount of experience. He'll start the year and eventually Ryan will take over either in 2008 or at the start of 2009 with Croyle backing him up -- or hell, if Croyle's decent in 2008, trade Croyle.

I think it's wise to keep Thiggy around, just in case we do lose Croyle and Thiggy develops into a solid backup.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:26 PM   #48
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BTW I think the Raiders go Gholston or Long.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:26 PM   #49
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Weren't you the "you'll never see two DTs go in the top four" guy?
No I'm the "you don't take RB's in the top 5 guy" sometimes when projecting you have to look into organizational ties and all that, the Raiders do have serious SC ties in coaching and organization and seem to like to always bring in SC players.

Let's put it this way, I think them taking Ellis is more likely than them taking McFadden.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:27 PM   #50
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No I'm the "you don't take RB's in the top 5 guy" sometimes when projecting you have to look into organizational ties and all that, the Raiders do have serious SC ties in coaching and organization and seem to like to always bring in SC players.

Let's put it this way, I think them taking Ellis is more likely than them taking McFadden.
I also believe you were the "I'm 100% confident McFadden will be in silver and black" guy.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:28 PM   #51
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I also believe you were the "I'm 100% confident McFadden will be in silver and black" guy.
I think he's going to the Jets and have for about 2 months...

The only real confident Raider opinion I ever express was I don't believe they'd pass on Howie's son if given the chance to pick him.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:29 PM   #52
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I think in this situation, you definitely keep Croyle and Thiggy and lose Huard.

Croyle has the tools of a good backup anyway. He's smart, he's got a good arm, the team likes him and now he's got a decent amount of experience. He'll start the year and eventually Ryan will take over either in 2008 or at the start of 2009 with Croyle backing him up -- or hell, if Croyle's decent in 2008, trade Croyle.
So if Croyle succeeds, trade him so an unproven player with a heavy wallet can start. Sound like something KC would do blow a 1st round pick on a 60 million dollar backup QB
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Other than Brodie Croyles odds of being good are well pretty slim.......let's just play with no QB.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:31 PM   #54
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There is no way the Jets pass on Ryan if the Chiefs do. Id bet money on it.
I think they're taking a wait-and-see with Clemens...
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Ellis, the Raiders organization has major ties to SC

Then where do you go you have Ryan and Gholston which to many become a serious toss up.
I think that is the absolute worst way the draft could fall for us. (imagine that, Mecca comes up with it.) If it falls that way, hopefully the Chiefs will make a trade down to someone wanting Ryan or McFadden.
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Other than Brodie Croyles odds of being good are well pretty slim........


We shall see
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So if Croyle succeeds, trade him so an unproven player with a heavy wallet can start. Sound like something KC would do blow a 1st round pick on a 60 million dollar backup QB
Well... define "succeed." If he pulls a Derek Anderson, you extend his contract with a smile on your face.

But if he plays only like 10 games having missed six due to injury, but showed flashes of talent during the games in which he was healthy, I'm thinking we could keep him around as a backup in 2009 as Ryan takes over, or if someone expresses interest in him with a mid-rounder or higher, take it and Thiggy is your new backup.
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Well... define "succeed." If he pulls a Derek Anderson, you extend his contract with a smile on your face.


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You are aware of the QB's in this conference right?
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You are aware of the QB's in this conference right?



Yes, Jared Allen had damn good seasons before but got probowl snubs while other media darlings got in. If Croyle, has a type of season worthy of being in the probowl, then all is golden.
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