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Old 11-04-2010, 03:09 PM  
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Collinsworth and Simms debate Matt Cassel
I can't believe Simms said some of the things he said.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:04 PM   #46
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Collinsworth said about as many boneheaded things as Simms did. Personally, I thought Simms actually raised some good points other than the good arm remark
This. And how can Collinsworth even bring up sacks? 8 total all year? Favre gets sacked that much each game. Neither brought up the fact how well he protects the ball. This is a running/ball control offense. Matt only has to throw about 20 yds each drive. Been a pretty good formula so far and he's doing exactly what his coaches are telling him to do.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:05 PM   #47
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You have pretty low expectations.
That's the main problem here...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:08 PM   #48
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Cassel is a funny quarterback. He's a lot like story of the elephant and the blind dudes ... the one where one blind dude touches the elephant's leg and says the elephant is like unto a pillar, another one touches his tail and says the elephant is like unto a rope, and still another touches his testicles and says the elephant is like unto his Uncle Morris ...

It all depends on your perspective. Are the Chiefs winning games? Yes. Is Cassel the quarterback? Yes. Can he dance like a little girl? Absolutely.

I wish we had a stud QB, but we don't. They can argue all they want, but we're stuck with this guy for now and sometimes he looks like a journeyman and sometimes he looks like a mud hole.

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Um, I really didn't need the "Uncle Morris" visual, but OK...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:09 PM   #49
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Cassel is a funny quarterback. He's a lot like story of the elephant and the blind dudes ... the one where one blind dude touches the elephant's leg and says the elephant is like unto a pillar, another one touches his tail and says the elephant is like unto a rope, and still another touches his testicles and says the elephant is like unto his Uncle Morris ...

It all depends on your perspective. Are the Chiefs winning games? Yes. Is Cassel the quarterback? Yes. Can he dance like a little girl? Absolutely.

I wish we had a stud QB, but we don't. They can argue all they want, but we're stuck with this guy for now and sometimes he looks like a journeyman and sometimes he looks like a mud hole.

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It really comes down to the fact that we have to accept the Chiefs for who they are.

The quarterback is not going to win them ball games. This is a running team who will beat you by running the ball, controlling the TOP, and dictating the tempo of the game, and also playing good defense and special teams. Not turning the ball over, and playing disciplined, and fundamentally sound.

Add all that up, and realistically this team is not going to blow people out. We just don't have the potent passing attack to do that. Plus, it has to do with who they are. I see this team as a methodical team. That is part of their philosophy to methodical beat teams.

What pleases me as a fan, unlike the past, this team has established an identity for themselves. They're gonna play 60 minutes all the way, and physical beat you, and try to outsmarten you. And they play with great tenacity and will. Not once have I seen this season where they've absolutely dogged it.
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Nope just saying quarterback play should be judged from a broader scale and not a narrow scale. He came through when it mattered most.
It matters all the time, Mr. RedThat. That, I believe, is what people are upset about. It didn't have to come down to the last drive in that game. Not at all.

Collinsworth is right when he says that, with a run game like ours, we ought to be able to devastate enemy defenses with the play action. When you come in averaging 200 rushing yards a game, you should be able to destroy secondaries ... even with the intermediate passing game.

In my opinion, Cassel's worst attributes are his apparent indecisiveness and lack of pocket presence. If he weren't such a question mark in the pocket, his mechanics would improve and, as a result, so would his accuracy. Sadly, too often he takes the snap and turns into, what appears to be, a big giant-chinned doofus with a red shirt and a football.

But, he's not throwing interceptions. Although there have been a couple of lucky breaks in that department as well.

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Um, I really didn't need the "Uncle Morris" visual, but OK...
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:10 PM   #52
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Cassel doesn't have many opportunities to be clutch considering how often the Chiefs run the ball.

And for as much shit as Cassel gets for sputtering drives, it was actually the running game that failed to convert 1st downs on several 3rd down opportunities.

Cassel played to the game plan. When they finally had to have him lead his own drive at the end of overtime, he made plays.
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Heh the only bus that cassel is driving is a pretty damn short one.
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What would be nice is to see this team actually run the ball on 3rd and short instead of constantly putting the ball in Cassels hands so he can blow it the majority of the time.
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... What pleases me as a fan, unlike the past, this team has established an identity for themselves. They're gonna play 60 minutes all the way, and physical beat you, and try to outsmarten you. And they play with great tenacity and will. Not once have I seen this season where they've absolutely dogged it.
We are simpatico in this regard, Mr. RedThat.

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What would be nice is to see this team actually run the ball on 3rd and short instead of constantly putting the ball in Cassels hands so he can blow it the majority of the time.
This I agree. Id like to see them run the ball more. And also not go for it on 4th down all the time, and piss away easy points. Thats frustrating to see.
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I'd like Cassel to stop overthrowing wide open receivers by 10 yards.
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I'd like Cassel to stop overthrowing wide open receivers by 10 yards.
My favorites from the last game are the bounce passes.

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This I agree. Id like to see them run the ball more. And also not go for it on 4th down all the time, and piss away easy points. Thats frustrating to see.
I've been OK with all but two of the fourth down decisions this year. What I hate is the play call on those downs. When they have 4th and one and then try to pass when our running game is gouging the other team for 6 yards per carry, why call an obvious passing play. At least go play action if you want to pass.
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