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Old 01-09-2012, 12:52 PM  
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Should the NFL stop giving automatic home games to division winners?

For the record, ive always hated this since they went to from 3 divisions in each conference to 4.






The Broncos' win means for a second consecutive first round of the playoffs, a division champ with four fewer regular-season wins than its wild-card visitor has pulled a shocking upset. It's sure to re-ignite the debate of whether the NFL should grant an automatic home game to any team winning its division, even if its record is far worse than a wild-card team.

Last year, the 11-5 wild-card qualifying Saints were the No. 5 seed in the NFC, making them play at No. 4 NFC West champion Seattle (7-9) in the first round. The Seahawks won 41-36, despite being a 10-point home underdog.

This year it was Pittsburgh's turn to be heavily favored and yet on the short end of the homefield advantage issue. The Steelers went 12-4 in the regular season, but finished as the AFC's No. 5 seed because Baltimore (12-4) won the AFC North via its two-game series sweep of Pittsburgh. Denver went 8-8, lost its final three games in the regular season and still won the AFC West via tiebreakers over Oakland and San Diego (each went 8-8). Thus, the Broncos got the home game in the first round, and the Steelers hit the road.



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Old 01-09-2012, 04:11 PM   #46
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Say a really good division fights it out to the death and the winner ends up 8-8. That doesn't necessarily mean the division sucks. Plus there are plenty of crappy teams that make the playoffs at 10-6 (2010 Chiefs).

Also I don't see much reason for having divisions in your scenario. Just AFC/NFC conferences would do.
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Old 01-09-2012, 04:13 PM   #47
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No. It's perfectly fine the way it is...so they'll probably change it.
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Old 01-09-2012, 04:46 PM   #48
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It was brought to light that year. Chiefs have pushed for it for years. Lamar wanted 7 teams in each conference making the playoffs. His reasoning was:
A) Made being #1 seed more important, since they would be the only one getting a bye in each conference
B) Gives the fans 2 extra games on wildcard weekend
C) More revenue through tv and ticket sales
There's been some talking of adding a couple more playoff teams to the mix. It will probably happen eventually.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:58 PM   #49
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IMO the team with a better record than a playoff team that either is missing the playoffs (Titans) or has to go on the road should have a choice of staying put and retaining their draft picks or giving the playoff team some of their draft picks and assume their spot.

For example, let's Tenn could assume Denver's spot if they gave Denver their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year (maybe not that much but a significant COST needs to be involved) OR

In the Pittsburgh scenerio give the Steelers the option of sacrificing the first 2 draft picks to DEN for the right to host the game.

Possible rules under this systems

The option SOLELY rests with the team having the better record getting screwed (for example Denver could not give up its playoff spor to get the picks)

Decisions must be made prior to week 17 games.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:59 PM   #50
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what if the division a team plays in is especially tough and because of that they have a less than sparkling record
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:03 PM   #51
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meh, they should have thought of this when they added two divisions. the second they change it to prevent a 8-8 division winner from playing at home they'll wind up having a 8-8 wildcard playing at home (against a 7-9 division winner prolly) and we'll have to have the discussion All Over Again.

it is what is.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:28 PM   #52
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what if the division a team plays in is especially tough and because of that they have a less than sparkling record
My definition of a tough division is where 2+ teams have 10+ wins and the 3rd place team usually has a pretty good record also (think AFC North). A division that sees its top 3 teams finish 8-8 is not a tough division.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #53
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:35 PM   #54
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My definition of a tough division is where 2+ teams have 10+ wins and the 3rd place team usually has a pretty good record also (think AFC North). A division that sees its top 3 teams finish 8-8 is not a tough division.
better than top 3 teams finishing 7-9 or worse like the NFC West last year.

Not disagreeing our division sucked ball This Year though.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:36 PM   #55
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IMO the team with a better record than a playoff team that either is missing the playoffs (Titans) or has to go on the road should have a choice of staying put and retaining their draft picks or giving the playoff team some of their draft picks and assume their spot.

For example, let's Tenn could assume Denver's spot if they gave Denver their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks this year (maybe not that much but a significant COST needs to be involved) OR

In the Pittsburgh scenerio give the Steelers the option of sacrificing the first 2 draft picks to DEN for the right to host the game.

Possible rules under this systems

The option SOLELY rests with the team having the better record getting screwed (for example Denver could not give up its playoff spor to get the picks)

Decisions must be made prior to week 17 games.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:37 PM   #56
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #57
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Why should you change it? The Ravens won the Super Bowl playing three on the road...The Chiefs won the Super Bowl playing two on the road. Good teams that play well can win on the road...home teams the under perform lose at home. That's why you play the game...
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:42 PM   #58
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:57 PM   #59
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It is fair this way...its a practically perfect system...dont **** with it unless you NEED to.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:04 PM   #60
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No. Steelers lost because they played like shit. Don't make excuses for them. Same for the Saints last year.
This. It's called winning the division. Did the Steelers win theirs?
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