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Old 01-09-2012, 12:52 PM  
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Should the NFL stop giving automatic home games to division winners?
For the record, ive always hated this since they went to from 3 divisions in each conference to 4.






The Broncos' win means for a second consecutive first round of the playoffs, a division champ with four fewer regular-season wins than its wild-card visitor has pulled a shocking upset. It's sure to re-ignite the debate of whether the NFL should grant an automatic home game to any team winning its division, even if its record is far worse than a wild-card team.

Last year, the 11-5 wild-card qualifying Saints were the No. 5 seed in the NFC, making them play at No. 4 NFC West champion Seattle (7-9) in the first round. The Seahawks won 41-36, despite being a 10-point home underdog.

This year it was Pittsburgh's turn to be heavily favored and yet on the short end of the homefield advantage issue. The Steelers went 12-4 in the regular season, but finished as the AFC's No. 5 seed because Baltimore (12-4) won the AFC North via its two-game series sweep of Pittsburgh. Denver went 8-8, lost its final three games in the regular season and still won the AFC West via tiebreakers over Oakland and San Diego (each went 8-8). Thus, the Broncos got the home game in the first round, and the Steelers hit the road.



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Old 01-09-2012, 03:16 PM   #31
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:17 PM   #32
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I'm fine with the home field thing. However, I think there should be a rule that division winners get into the playoffs only if there's no team staying home with 2 more wins.

So if you win the division at 8-8 and some other team is 10-6 and misses a playoff spot, they're in as a third wild card and you're out. Same if you're 9-7 and another team is 11-5, and so on.
You should be the NFL commish for that idea.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:18 PM   #33
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Didn't Carl try to get a rule passed that any team 10-6 or better is automatically entered into the playoffs? Came after 2005 when we went 10-6 and missed the playoffs, iirc.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:19 PM   #34
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Didn't Carl try to get a rule passed that any team 10-6 or better is automatically entered into the playoffs? Came after 2005 when we went 10-6 and missed the playoffs, iirc.
I thought he was lobbying for an extra wildcard per conference.

...but I can't exactly remember.

either way, it definitely sounds like something Carl would do.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:20 PM   #35
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I think the only way to realistically do that would be to do away with divisions ala the setup the NHL currently uses for playoff seeding.

Don't really think it's that big of a deal however.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:22 PM   #36
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Win the division, get a home game.

Remove this and winning the division becomes completely pointless. Why even have divisions?
I agree 100%.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:26 PM   #38
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I'm fine with the home field thing. However, I think there should be a rule that division winners get into the playoffs only if there's no team staying home with 2 more wins.

So if you win the division at 8-8 and some other team is 10-6 and misses a playoff spot, they're in as a third wild card and you're out. Same if you're 9-7 and another team is 11-5, and so on.
Um, no.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:28 PM   #39
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I think the only way to realistically do that would be to do away with divisions ala the setup the NHL currently uses for playoff seeding.

Don't really think it's that big of a deal however.
I wouldn't have a problem with this.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:32 PM   #40
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I still think it's stupid that a league record is used to determine two conference playoffs with preference assigned to division winners, at least according to my logic.

Using the rules as they are today, the playoff field should be the top twelve teams of the league seeded according to standing regardless of conference or division. Because as we saw last year KC "won" the division by virtue of a 10-6 league record with a losing record against the division. Don't care if I get flamed for this as I did earlier this season; shit should be consistent. If you want to assign playoff berths by division for the sake of legacy, fine. But at least stipulate you have a winning league record with a non-losing division record if you want to keep the current system in effect.

But honestly I think it should be a true conference playoff to determine who goes to the Superbowl. In this system you reward teams for actually beating conference opponents and negate the effect of a team or teams from smacking around a weak-ass non-conference division to inflate their record... Kind of like what KC did last year.
Addendum: To back up my thoughts on conference record determining playoffs: If the NFL used the system I've proscribed, KC goes to the playoffs in 2010 as the 6th seed, doesn't go in 2006, but is in 2005 over the Patriots for winning two more conference games.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:36 PM   #41
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Wild cards are just that, so I would leave it like it is.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:44 PM   #42
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Leave it alone. I hate that people bring this up every year. The NFL has the best system in sports and people want to make it the NBA. Division rivalries matter. There were division games across the board that mattered the last couple weeks because playoff spots were on the line. Otherwise you should do away with divisions and at the last week of the year 75% of the games wont even matter because there's only one final wild card spot on the line.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:54 PM   #43
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I don't have any issues with the setup now... never have, to be honest with you. They tinker around so much with things now, it's crazy.

In the end... things wash out just about how they're supposed to in the playoffs. If a 12 win team (that played in the SB a year ago) can't beat an 8 win team (after losing their last 3 games) on the road... then, them's the breaks I guess.

Were the Steelers winning @ NE ... I doubt it, and the Broncos very likely will not either. So, in the end, it all holds up.
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Old 01-09-2012, 04:01 PM   #45
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Didn't Carl try to get a rule passed that any team 10-6 or better is automatically entered into the playoffs? Came after 2005 when we went 10-6 and missed the playoffs, iirc.
It was brought to light that year. Chiefs have pushed for it for years. Lamar wanted 7 teams in each conference making the playoffs. His reasoning was:
A) Made being #1 seed more important, since they would be the only one getting a bye in each conference
B) Gives the fans 2 extra games on wildcard weekend
C) More revenue through tv and ticket sales
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