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Old 06-04-2009, 10:15 AM  
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Something amazing to tell you concerning physics and motion

This blows my mind.

Okay, say you have two ball bearings. You hold one in your hand and drop it. The other you put in a gun, point it straight forward, as level as the one in your hand, and pull the trigger, sending it hundreds of yards.

Which one lands first?

The one dropped in your hand right? RIGHT!?!?

No, actually they both hit the ground at the same time.

This is because the vertical component of motion is the same for both objects. They both fall vertically the same distance at about 10 meters per second squared (gravity, actually more like 9.8).

But Jenson, Jenson! What about the horizontal component of the gun-fired ball bearing? Actually, when air resistance is small enough to ignore as it is in this case (being that the bearings are exactly alike), the horizontal and vertical components of a projectile's velocity are completely independent of one another.

And, in this experiment, the gun-fired bearing is constantly falling from the moment it is fired. Yes, it looks like it is holding up in a straight line, but, it's actually falling and it's just hard to see with our eyes. And again, it is falling at exactly the same speed as the ball bearing you released in your hand -- the speed of gravity.

Post more cool science things in this thread.

I think I will later post Aristotle vs. Galileo and gravity, for a little history spin on science.
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:59 AM   #61
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explain why two identical atomic clocks will not read the exact same time after a year if one is at sea level and the other is elevated, say, in denver.
Atmopheric pressure?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:00 AM   #62
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You are overthinking it!!!!!
$30-$2 is NOT $27!!
Actually, Jenson is correct.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:05 AM   #63
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This blows my mind.

Okay, say you have two ball bearings. You hold one in your hand and drop it. The other you put in a gun, point it straight forward, as level as the one in your hand, and pull the trigger, sending it hundreds of yards.

Which one lands first?

The one dropped in your hand right? RIGHT!?!?

No, actually they both hit the ground at the same time.

This is because the vertical component of motion is the same for both objects. They both fall vertically the same distance at about 10 meters per second squared (gravity, actually more like 9.8).

But Jenson, Jenson! What about the horizontal component of the gun-fired ball bearing? Actually, when air resistance is small enough to ignore as it is in this case (being that the bearings are exactly alike), the horizontal and vertical components of a projectile's velocity are completely independent of one another.

And, in this experiment, the gun-fired bearing is constantly falling from the moment it is fired. Yes, it looks like it is holding up in a straight line, but, it's actually falling and it's just hard to see with our eyes. And again, it is falling at exactly the same speed as the ball bearing you released in your hand -- the speed of gravity.

Post more cool science things in this thread.

I think I will later post Aristotle vs. Galileo and gravity, for a little history spin on science.
Actually, if the bullet is fired horizontally at a fast enough speed, it will NEVER hit the ground. Why? Because it is now in orbit and constantly falling.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:05 AM   #64
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Atmopheric pressure?
nope, time dilation as notorious referred to
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:05 AM   #65
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Most of us have something on our person that proves the Theory of Relativity, what is it?
lithium ion battery?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:06 AM   #66
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The $25 bill equals ~$8.33 per person.

This leaves $5 out of $30.

The waiter takes $2.

He gives each person $1 in change.

Each person paid ~$9.33 not $9.00.

The group paid $28.00.

That extra dollar was found in bath math fantasyland.
Other way around 3x10=30, 30-3=27=3x9. The 2 is the difference between the 25 billed and the 27 paid.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:06 AM   #67
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Actually, if the bullet is fired horizontally at a fast enough speed, it will NEVER hit the ground. Why? Because it is now in orbit and constantly falling.
And what would speed would the bullet need to travel to escape Earth's gravitational pull?!?!?!?!
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:07 AM   #68
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Dinner bill: $25

3 people gave $10 each for a total of $30.

Waiter automatically pockets $2. $30-$2=$28.

He gives each of the people $1 back meaning they actually paid $9 each for a total of $27.

The extra dollar? He took it. Dang thieves.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:07 AM   #69
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And what would speed would the bullet need to travel to escape Earth's gravitational pull?!?!?!?!
11.186 km/s. More precisely sqrt(2GM/R), where G-gravity, M-mass, R-radius.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:09 AM   #70
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Oh and Baby Lee, to answer your question about the Quadratic formula,

The negative answer probably has to do with what direction you are facing. If you are standing at 0 and everything in front of you is a positive direction (in feet) 1 foot, 2 feet, etc. and everything behind you is negative (feet) -1, -2, etc. then the negative answer for that would be how far it goes behind you???

My english isn't very good in the above sentence, hopefully that makes sense and is the correct answer?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:10 AM   #71
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11.186 km/s.
Dude. WTF. I know -9.8m/s2. That's pretty basic shit.

Why the **** do you know the speed required to escape earth's gravity?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:11 AM   #72
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11.186 km/s. More precisely sqrt(2GM/R), where G-gravity, M-mass, R-radius.
Very good, at the equator. Those NASA guys are pretty smart, aren't they?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:12 AM   #73
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Actually, if the bullet is fired horizontally at a fast enough speed, it will NEVER hit the ground. Why? Because it is now in orbit and constantly falling.
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And what would speed would the bullet need to travel to escape Earth's gravitational pull?!?!?!?!
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11.186 km/s. More precisely sqrt(2GM/R), where G-gravity, M-mass, R-radius.
I'm sorry, I'm not seeing it. The bullet is fired tangentially to gravity. It has no vertical momentum away from the Earth's gravitational pull. It will simply continue to orbit at the same height.


[edit] Okay, I get it.


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Old 06-04-2009, 11:13 AM   #74
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:13 AM   #75
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No, actually they both hit the ground at the same time.
So, you're assuming the Earth is flat here?
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