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Old 12-23-2012, 10:36 AM  
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Schefter: the four GMs most in danger of losing their jobs are...

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@AdamSchefter: The four GMs in most danger of losing jobs are Arizona’s Rod Graves, Cleveland’s Tom Heckert, Jacksonville’s Gene Smith, SD's A.J. Smith.
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@AdamSchefter: Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross has emerged as a leading candidate to become the Panthers next general manager, per sources.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:52 AM   #61
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Not the guy you want. At all. RT @greggrosenthal Every KC fan that likes idea of hiring Polian: Check out his last 5 drafts in Indy
Not a single difference maker. A couple of decent players, (Garcon, Angerer, Session) but nothing I'm jealous over.


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Old 12-23-2012, 11:53 AM   #62
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Yes, that is the exact same thing as Pioli trading for Cassel.
The ultimate thing was Pioli absolutely refused to move on from Cassel. Polian wasn't going to move on from Manning, even with Andrew Luck right in his lap.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:54 AM   #63
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the funny thing is...

8 years ago (or whatever) Tom Brady was SOOOOOOOOOO much better than Peyton Manning because Peyton Manning was surrounded by all of these GREAT weapons and his front office showered him with great pick after great pick after great pick.

This is no exaggeration. People like Mecca used to spew this stuff all of the time during my yearly Peyton Manning/Tom Brady debates. Seriously. It was..."Tom Brady has no weapons but Peyton Manning has Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne!"

Every. Single. Year.

Now?

Now we are rumored to get Polian and Polian was shitty and stumbled into Peyton and Peyton masked all of his poor front office decisions.

Interesting fan base we have.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:56 AM   #64
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Until Hunt becomes more hands-on or someone else who is more hands-on owns the team, we're probably going to stay in the mode of the Dominatrix GM who lords over cities, complexes, and candy wrappers.

Unfortunately that's not changing anytime soon.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:57 AM   #65
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go pick any team and post their last 5 drafts

someday you guys are going to realize drafting is a 20% game

AND

Indy always picked within the last 5 picks of all those drafts

Just saying.

I hate to look as if I'm defending or advocating Polian, I'm just saying...it wouldn't piss me off. I'd be more interested in his head coaching choice and making sure we land Geno.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:57 AM   #66
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Until Hunt becomes more hands-on or someone else who is more hands-on owns the team, we're probably going to stay in the mode of the Dominatrix GM who lords over cities, complexes, and candy wrappers.

Unfortunately that's not changing anytime soon.
This is why I hate the Hunt family.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:59 AM   #67
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My main problem with Polian is his unconditional love for the Cover 2.
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Old 12-23-2012, 11:59 AM   #68
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everything 3rd round on is just a total crapshoot

which is why I laugh every year when people get up in arms about a 5th round pick

there are hits all over the place...3rd round, 6th round...UDFA

but go look, in depth, over the last 10 drafts 3rd-7th round and do some percentages in your head...

3rd round you have about a 20% chance of landing a quality starter

maybe the fact I'm so used to crunching the odds in my head playing poker is why I've always found the whole "omg we traded a future 7th for Jake O'Connell" so funny

the fact he stayed on our roster so long makes him a hell of a steal sadly enough, lol
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:00 PM   #69
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the funny thing is...

8 years ago (or whatever) Tom Brady was SOOOOOOOOOO much better than Peyton Manning because Peyton Manning was surrounded by all of these GREAT weapons and his front office showered him with great pick after great pick after great pick.

This is no exaggeration. People like Mecca used to spew this stuff all of the time during my yearly Peyton Manning/Tom Brady debates. Seriously. It was..."Tom Brady has no weapons but Peyton Manning has Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne!"

Every. Single. Year.

Now?

Now we are rumored to get Polian and Polian was shitty and stumbled into Peyton and Peyton masked all of his poor front office decisions.

Interesting fan base we have.
Years ago, Pioli was surrounding Manning with more weapons.

When his son became more involved in the process, that was no longer the case.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:00 PM   #70
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So you're basically saying you'd be OK with Pioli staying if he drafted Geno.
I want Geno first and foremost.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:00 PM   #71
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My main problem with Polian is his unconditional love for the Cover 2.
You think that's Polian?

He may have had an unconditional love for the Dungy staff and Dungy tree...and if he brings one of those idiots to KC then I will be ****ing pissed because that is an outdated scheme that doesn't work anymore.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:01 PM   #73
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Schefter didn't mention Pioli because Pioli is already fired.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:01 PM   #74
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:03 PM   #75
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Years ago, Pioli was surrounding Manning with more weapons.

When his son became more involved in the process, that was no longer the case.
Look, I've been on record with my Eddie Kennison/Marvin Harrison theory many, many, many times.

Marvin Harrison was no better of a talent than Eddie Kennison; he just got drafted 1 pick after Kennison and then stumbled into Manning a year later.

Manning has never, ever, ever had a guy like he does this year with Demaryius Thomas.

Truth be told; A franchise QB, an all-time great like Manning...makes a good receiver a great receiver, a really good receiver a hall of fame receiver.

Just like Tom Brady did with guys like David Givens.

Manning turned average TE's like Jacob Tamme and Bryan Fletcher into guys who made plays on a consistent basis at times.

Now he's making Knowshon look like a real RB.

You think that's coincidence?

Come on.
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