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T-post Tom · 04:43 PM

Don't read him much, but not down with all of his analysis (some of it is ok) ...especially about being lucky not to lose 2 games at home. Lucky? You can use that word for any game. Lazy. He also didn't take into account the return of EB and the RBs getting progressively better with playing time. Also wouldn't peg Hill as limited. He'll have had 10 days off & didn't look too limited in the last game. And it's a bit early to base your analysis on Chiefs' losing home field advantage.

Saints, Chargers are the NFL's two best teams; here's what to make of the other contenders

At this very moment I believe we could agree on which two teams are the best in the NFL. The Saints are the premier team in the NFC and the Chargers are the most balanced, complete team in the AFC. Doesn't mean they will win the Super Bowl, or even get there, but they are the best teams in football right now.

And while they are both certainly far from infallible – the Saints suddenly can't score in the first half of games and the Chargers have zero playoff pedigree, by and large – they are trending in a much better direction that most of their playoff brethren at this point. They have more going for them – at the quarterback position and on defense – than most of their postseason competition, and they just might be on a collision course for the careers of Drew Brees and Philip Rivers to intersect in a unique fashion once more, only this time with a Lombardi Trophy possibly at stake.

But what do make of the rest of the best (or the best of the rest, depending on your nomenclature)? How would we size up those teams? Because it seems to me that quite a few of the clubs that many in the media and public were clamoring to crown, to one degree or another, in October or November or even early December, are now suddenly sputtering and just might be running out of steam. They may have peaked too soon. They may be settling into a steady and uncomfortable descent.

All of them have some glaring deficiencies that just might bring their seasons to a close much sooner than most would have anticipated just a few short weeks ago, and here is how I would assess their degrees of concern:

Kansas City Chiefs

They are damn lucky not to have lost the last two games at home, and their massive issues on defense are being fully exposed now. You can run it on them all day long, control the clock and keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. And, well, when Sammy Watkins is their fourth- or fifth-best option on offense, they are stone-cold assassins. But you take Kareem Hunt out of the mix and Spencer Ware is beat up and the offensive line is beat up and Tyreek Hill is beat up and Travis Kelce is being smothered every play in double and triple coverage, and, well, it might be another sad January for Andy Reid. Add in the fact that they might blow home-field advantage and I would be quite worried about the current state of affairs. Of course, Mahomes is a freak in the best way possible and he can overcome more than almost anyone else in the NFL … but I still can't help but think this dream season comes to an abrupt end.

Los Angeles Rams

Jared Goff is a really nice QB when he has a top-flight run game and Todd Gurley is on the field for literally every snap. And when he has Cooper Kupp moving the chains on third down and when the entirety of the playbook is open to master tactician Sean McVay on drive after drive and when he is able to command the game early. But, well, none of that is really available to him lately and the results have been dire. If I am the Rams, I am giving Gurley a game off in the next two weeks to give him an extended bye – recall how they basically played no starters at all in the preseason – and anything short of that could lead to a one-and-done. It really is that dire if Gurley is anything less than the most dynamic, impactful player on the field for more or less every snap he is on the field.

New England Patriots

We tend to project them into the Super Bowl every year, for good reason, but this team is severely limited now and Tom Brady cannot overcome that anymore. He is human and he is fallible and they are sorely lacking in playmakers and speed and size/speed match-up guys. They will never be as healthy again as they were in Pittsburgh, and still they had to resort to trickeration to move the ball. If anything, I suspect they become a dominant ball-control, run-game team in the playoffs – which their defense desperately needs – and that might keep them from going out early. But they need a bye they probably won't get and I'd start to worry about the brain drain that is likely on the horizon there. The ridiculous institutional genius of Brady and Belichick keep them from being atop this list, but this really does look like the end of the line.

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Chicago Bears

I don't think this team can play from behind against anyone, and when they face better defenses in the playoffs they might not grab an early lead. Mitchell Trubisky is one guy in the first quarter when he runs a script he has practiced all week – he ranks seventh in the NFL in first-quarter passing, competing 72 percent of his passes for 8.6 yards per attempt with five TDs and one INT for a 112.7 rating – and, well, he is someone very different indeed the rest of the game (when he completes 62 percent of his passes for 7.06 yards per attempt with 18 TDs and 11 INTs and a woeful rating of 88.7). In January, well, let him run into a team that can blitz him into some early mistakes and the Bears have to play from behind. Good luck with that.

Houston Texans

This offensive line is no good. It survived for a while and Deshaun Watson has avoided the kill shot that ended his 2017 season up until now, but I don't like at all the way this is trending. There is a blueprint to exploit and, sadly for the Texans, just within their conference the Chiefs and Chargers and Steelers are all equipped to swarm them off the edge with their considerable pass rush. Watson has been getting thumped far too often and the run game is not nearly as robust as it was a month ago. What the Jets did to them last weekend has to be scaring the crap out of the Texans coaching staff. That nine-game win streak is over and they look quite vulnerable right now.

Pittsburgh Steelers

I could still see them in the Super Bowl. Their slump is finally over, Jaylen Samuels looks better than James Conner right now, they are fully healthy on offense and the defense, on any given game day, can bring the thunder on the pass rush. But, well, their once impervious kicker now looks like a train wreck, He is not right mentally or physically, and their postseason could very well end with him crapping out. Once Chris Boswell seemed to have a bead on the weird jet stream within Heinz Field in a way no one else did, but now those days are gone, and every single extra point he attempts is a potential misadventure. If the Steelers go out early, I strongly suspect he has much to do with it.

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T-post Tom · 12-19-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

The Rams game came down to one play, as well - that Scandrick drop.

In fact, both games came down to one play where Scandrick screwed the pooch.

Guessing his 1 year deal won't be extended.

rabblerouser · 12-19-2018, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Guessing his 1 year deal won't be extended.

Kinda sucks that he doesn't have better ball awareness, because he's got the ideal size and physical attributes.

He just...doesn't make the play.

T-post Tom · 12-19-2018, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Kinda sucks that he doesn't have better ball awareness, because he's got the ideal size and physical attributes.

He just...doesn't make the play.

Meh. 5'10", 31 yrs old, slow for CB. That & not great ball skills. At this point in his career, you would think his play recognition would be better. Didn't appear so in the last game. I'm praying for him!

rabblerouser · 12-19-2018, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Meh. 5'10", 31 yrs old, slow for CB. That & not great ball skills. At this point in his career, you would think his play recognition would be better. Didn't as apear so in the last game. I'm praying for him!

I would almost say "move him to safety" but that play recognition/ball awareness is killing it, and not in the good way.

TEX · 12-19-2018, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief

Looks pretty objective to me...

This team will desperately miss Hunt in the future, you can't replace his contributions or his durability.

Yep. They already do. IMO, losing him was a fatal blow. But he's a dumbass and is gone so its next man, or men, up.

Eleazar · 12-19-2018, 11:33 PM

He's not wrong

CoMoChief · 12-20-2018, 01:09 AM

-No Kareem Hunt
-No Sammy Watkins
-No Spencer Ware
-No LDT
-Cam Erving is banged up
-Mitch Morse is a 20mph gust of wind away from getting another concussion
-Both ILB's are terrible, front7 can't stop the run
-Safeties are just as bad
-Our best CB is banged up, just had surgery and is in a cast, and Scandrick finds new ways to suck ass
-And of course, Eric Berry

Obvs we didn't have Berry all year and he's coming back, but this team is a shell of it's former self earlier in the year. Defense can't stop anyone unless they get a team into a 3rd n long situation, where the pass rush is quite good. Teams, and esp a team like SEA, just needs to run the ball and run RPO's w/ Wilson and there is no way the Chiefs will be able to stop it. It will be BAL again except vs a QB that can actually play the position.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-20-2018, 01:48 AM

Lost to three really good teams and easily could be undefeated. Absolutely bent over by the refs in all three. Chargers were gifted the game on two bogus calls, Rams were gifted a huge lead and scored on a play that NEVER should have happened, and NE got away with murder on both sides of the ball. I'm not seeing a reason to jump off a cliff. Easily the best team in the conference.

T-post Tom · 12-20-2018, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

-No Kareem Hunt
-No Sammy Watkins
-No Spencer Ware
-No LDT
-Cam Erving is banged up
-Mitch Morse is a 20mph gust of wind away from getting another concussion
-Both ILB's are terrible, front7 can't stop the run
-Safeties are just as bad
-Our best CB is banged up, just had surgery and is in a cast, and Scandrick finds new ways to suck ass
-And of course, Eric Berry

Obvs we didn't have Berry all year and he's coming back, but this team is a shell of it's former self earlier in the year. Defense can't stop anyone unless they get a team into a 3rd n long situation, where the pass rush is quite good. Teams, and esp a team like SEA, just needs to run the ball and run RPO's w/ Wilson and there is no way the Chiefs will be able to stop it. It will be BAL again except vs a QB that can actually play the position.

And yet the Chiefs are the top seed in the AFC and only lost 3 games by a total of 7 points. Hunt, Watkins and Ware were healthy and played in 2 of the 3 losses.

Andy is coming off a bye. He'll have this team ready to destroy the Hags...& they will. Dolts will lose to Ravens. Chiefs will beat Oakland. Ketchup sales will skyrocket after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl this February.

Chief Pagan · 12-20-2018, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

And yet the Chiefs are the top seed in the AFC and only lost 3 games by a total of 7 points. Hunt, Watkins and Ware were healthy and played in 2 of the 3 losses.

Andy is coming off a bye. He'll have this team ready to destroy the Hags...& they will. Dolts will lose to Ravens. Chiefs will beat Oakland. Ketchup sales will skyrocket after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl this February.

And just what have you been drinking out of those two glasses to make you say that and may I have some?

Reroka · 12-20-2018, 05:09 AM

He is not wrong however, Once the chiefs get up by 14 the run attack for the other team wont help as the other team will have to pass the ball. When they start passing the ball they will score fast, which gets our offense back on the field.

scho63 · 12-20-2018, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

TEX · 12-20-2018, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

And yet the Chiefs are the top seed in the AFC and only lost 3 games by a total of 7 points. Hunt, Watkins and Ware were healthy and played in 2 of the 3 losses.

Andy is coming off a bye. He'll have this team ready to destroy the Hags...& they will. Dolts will lose to Ravens. Chiefs will beat Oakland. Ketchup sales will skyrocket after the Chiefs win the Super Bowl this February.

Watkins played only two plays against the Rams...I get what you're saying, but all the guys listed have been mised. The offense has slipped a bit without them. I dont need to drink out of any glass to see that. I trust my eyes.

Let's just see how they fare agsinst Seattle. Im betting Seattle wins and copies the Raven's game plan. The reason they win, where the Ravens didn't, will be because Seattle has a real QB.

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**loochy** · 12-20-2018, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Let's just see how they fare agsinst Seattle. Im betting Seattle wins and copies the Raven's game plan. The reason they win, where the Ravens didn't, will be because Seattle has a real QB.

But their defense is nowhere near as good so I don't think the Seahawks will hold the Chiefs to 27 points.

12-19-2018, 04:23 PM
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4367293	Jason La Canfora Not Lovin' the Chiefs Don't read him much, but not down with all of his analysis (some of it is ok) ...especially about being lucky not to lose 2 games at home. Lucky? You can use that word for any game. Lazy. He also didn't take into account the return of EB and the RBs getting progressively better with playing time. Also wouldn't peg Hill as limited. He'll have had 10 days off & didn't look too limited in the last game. And it's a bit early to base your analysis on Chiefs' losing home field advantage. Saints, Chargers are the NFL's two best teams; here's what to make of the other contenders At this very moment I believe we could agree on which two teams are the best in the NFL. The Saints are the premier team in the NFC and the Chargers are the most balanced, complete team in the AFC. Doesn't mean they will win the Super Bowl, or even get there, but they are the best teams in football right now. And while they are both certainly far from infallible – the Saints suddenly can't score in the first half of games and the Chargers have zero playoff pedigree, by and large – they are trending in a much better direction that most of their playoff brethren at this point. They have more going for them – at the quarterback position and on defense – than most of their postseason competition, and they just might be on a collision course for the careers of Drew Brees and Philip Rivers to intersect in a unique fashion once more, only this time with a Lombardi Trophy possibly at stake. But what do make of the rest of the best (or the best of the rest, depending on your nomenclature)? How would we size up those teams? Because it seems to me that quite a few of the clubs that many in the media and public were clamoring to crown, to one degree or another, in October or November or even early December, are now suddenly sputtering and just might be running out of steam. They may have peaked too soon. They may be settling into a steady and uncomfortable descent. All of them have some glaring deficiencies that just might bring their seasons to a close much sooner than most would have anticipated just a few short weeks ago, and here is how I would assess their degrees of concern: Kansas City Chiefs They are damn lucky not to have lost the last two games at home, and their massive issues on defense are being fully exposed now. You can run it on them all day long, control the clock and keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. And, well, when Sammy Watkins is their fourth- or fifth-best option on offense, they are stone-cold assassins. But you take Kareem Hunt out of the mix and Spencer Ware is beat up and the offensive line is beat up and Tyreek Hill is beat up and Travis Kelce is being smothered every play in double and triple coverage, and, well, it might be another sad January for Andy Reid. Add in the fact that they might blow home-field advantage and I would be quite worried about the current state of affairs. Of course, Mahomes is a freak in the best way possible and he can overcome more than almost anyone else in the NFL … but I still can't help but think this dream season comes to an abrupt end. Los Angeles Rams Jared Goff is a really nice QB when he has a top-flight run game and Todd Gurley is on the field for literally every snap. And when he has Cooper Kupp moving the chains on third down and when the entirety of the playbook is open to master tactician Sean McVay on drive after drive and when he is able to command the game early. But, well, none of that is really available to him lately and the results have been dire. If I am the Rams, I am giving Gurley a game off in the next two weeks to give him an extended bye – recall how they basically played no starters at all in the preseason – and anything short of that could lead to a one-and-done. It really is that dire if Gurley is anything less than the most dynamic, impactful player on the field for more or less every snap he is on the field. New England Patriots We tend to project them into the Super Bowl every year, for good reason, but this team is severely limited now and Tom Brady cannot overcome that anymore. He is human and he is fallible and they are sorely lacking in playmakers and speed and size/speed match-up guys. They will never be as healthy again as they were in Pittsburgh, and still they had to resort to trickeration to move the ball. If anything, I suspect they become a dominant ball-control, run-game team in the playoffs – which their defense desperately needs – and that might keep them from going out early. But they need a bye they probably won't get and I'd start to worry about the brain drain that is likely on the horizon there. The ridiculous institutional genius of Brady and Belichick keep them from being atop this list, but this really does look like the end of the line. Sorry to interrupt your reading, but just a quick PSA here. We have a pretty amazing daily NFL podcast you may not be aware of. It's hosted by Will Brinson and it's all the things you're looking for: news, fantasy, picks, really, just football stuff for football people. Subscribe: via iTunes \| via Stitcher \| via TuneIn \| via Google Chicago Bears I don't think this team can play from behind against anyone, and when they face better defenses in the playoffs they might not grab an early lead. Mitchell Trubisky is one guy in the first quarter when he runs a script he has practiced all week – he ranks seventh in the NFL in first-quarter passing, competing 72 percent of his passes for 8.6 yards per attempt with five TDs and one INT for a 112.7 rating – and, well, he is someone very different indeed the rest of the game (when he completes 62 percent of his passes for 7.06 yards per attempt with 18 TDs and 11 INTs and a woeful rating of 88.7). In January, well, let him run into a team that can blitz him into some early mistakes and the Bears have to play from behind. Good luck with that. Houston Texans This offensive line is no good. It survived for a while and Deshaun Watson has avoided the kill shot that ended his 2017 season up until now, but I don't like at all the way this is trending. There is a blueprint to exploit and, sadly for the Texans, just within their conference the Chiefs and Chargers and Steelers are all equipped to swarm them off the edge with their considerable pass rush. Watson has been getting thumped far too often and the run game is not nearly as robust as it was a month ago. What the Jets did to them last weekend has to be scaring the crap out of the Texans coaching staff. That nine-game win streak is over and they look quite vulnerable right now. Pittsburgh Steelers I could still see them in the Super Bowl. Their slump is finally over, Jaylen Samuels looks better than James Conner right now, they are fully healthy on offense and the defense, on any given game day, can bring the thunder on the pass rush. But, well, their once impervious kicker now looks like a train wreck, He is not right mentally or physically, and their postseason could very well end with him crapping out. Once Chris Boswell seemed to have a bead on the weird jet stream within Heinz Field in a way no one else did, but now those days are gone, and every single extra point he attempts is a potential misadventure. If the Steelers go out early, I strongly suspect he has much to do with it. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/saints-chargers-are-the-nfls-two-best-teams-heres-what-to-make-of-the-other-contenders/ Last edited by T-post Tom; 12-19-2018 at 04:43 PM..
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8022254	-No Kareem Hunt -No Sammy Watkins -No Spencer Ware -No LDT -Cam Erving is banged up -Mitch Morse is a 20mph gust of wind away from getting another concussion -Both ILB's are terrible, front7 can't stop the run -Safeties are just as bad -Our best CB is banged up, just had surgery and is in a cast, and Scandrick finds new ways to suck ass -And of course, Eric Berry Obvs we didn't have Berry all year and he's coming back, but this team is a shell of it's former self earlier in the year. Defense can't stop anyone unless they get a team into a 3rd n long situation, where the pass rush is quite good. Teams, and esp a team like SEA, just needs to run the ball and run RPO's w/ Wilson and there is no way the Chiefs will be able to stop it. It will be BAL again except vs a QB that can actually play the position. __________________
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