Greinke Brawls..breaks collarbone

[Bowser]

Immediately after the pitch, Zach gives that look like "Ah, shit!", then it looks to me like Quentin walks a little in front of the plate, then decides he's got enough roids in him to be pissed, and charges.

I don't think he was trying to hit him. Zach is one of those pitches with the kind of pinpoint control that if he wanted to hit you or send a message, he'd plant a fastball in your earhole or your kidneys, not a deflection off your batting armor on your arm. And that's not even considering the situation - you just don't hit a guy with a full count in a one run game.

Long story short - Quentin is a bitch, but Zach should have kept his mouth shut when Quentin stepped in front of the plate.

[Hootie]

Anyone who thinks that was on purpose is a ****ing moron.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

His little gobble got fazed.
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[KChiefer]

This vid has their exchange in '09. Again, after last night's game Greinke said he's never thrown at Quentin before which is total BS. Hey, go ahead and throw at him, but don't plead innocent especially after talking smack from the mound.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by KChiefer

This vid has their exchange in '09. Again, after last night's game Greinke said he's never thrown at Quentin before which is total BS. Hey, go ahead and throw at him, but don't plead innocent especially after talking smack from the mound.

Notice the difference in the catchers actions. Olivo steps in and sends Quentin on his way to first. AJ Ellis just stands there like an oaf and lets Quentin charge unimpeded.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Notice the difference in the catchers actions. Olivo steps in and sends Quentin on his way to first. AJ Ellis just stands there like an oaf and lets Quentin charge unimpeded.

Ellis should have been all over Quentin.

I remember Dave Winfield charging the mound against the Cubs back in the early WGN/cable days. Big-ass Barry Foote caught up with him and tackled him from behind before he could even get to the mound. So awesome.

Ha ha, here it is: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...istory/page/12

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Notice the difference in the catchers actions. Olivo steps in and sends Quentin on his way to first. AJ Ellis just stands there like an oaf and lets Quentin charge unimpeded.

True, but I think that re-inforces the belief that Zach wasn't intentionally throwing at Quentin, or at the very least, they hadn't called it. Ellis didn't expect Quentin to charge in that situation, but Olivo knew damn well he was going to in '09.

[ToxSocks]

I don't really follow baseball other than i what i hear on the radio on my way to work. San Diego Broadcasters keep saying that he wasn't crowding the plate.

http://youtu.be/kTuxVQ5TPoE

So my question is, was he crowding the plate, and if so, what's considered "crowding the plate"?

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I don't really follow baseball other than i what i hear on the radio on my way to work. San Diego Broadcasters keep saying that he wasn't crowding the plate.

http://youtu.be/kTuxVQ5TPoE

So my question is, was he crowding the plate, and if so, what's considered "crowding the plate"?

Carlos Quentin lead the league in getting hit by pitches for the last 2 years. He has been towards the top the 3 years before that. That is with his many stints on the DL too.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Carlos Quentin lead the league in getting hit by pitches for the last 2 years. He has been towards the top the 3 years before that. That is with his many stints on the DL too.

Yeah, but was he crowding the plate last night when he got hit?

[Hootie]

I don't care what Greinke may or may not have said to him...you don't charge the mound in a 1 run game on a full count like that...it was the most ridiculous thing I've seen in a while.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by KChiefer

This vid has their exchange in '09. Again, after last night's game Greinke said he's never thrown at Quentin before which is total BS. Hey, go ahead and throw at him, but don't plead innocent especially after talking smack from the mound.

You must not understand baseball if you think that was intentional. Even Quentin knows it wasn't intentional...he charged because, according to him, Greinke said something to him.

[KChiefer]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

You must not understand baseball if you think that was intentional. Even Quentin knows it wasn't intentional...he charged because, according to him, Greinke said something to him.

Yeah, well that vid from '09 doesn't help the whole, "It's a 1 run game" story. Why hit someone in a 1 run game in the fourth inning in a 1-1 count. I don't think Ellis and Grienke dialed it up, I think Grienke decided to plunk rather than serve up a fastball down the pipe or give him a free pass.

If Greinke has such great control as Bowser says, why did he miss the glove by 3 feet with a fastball up and in?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by KChiefer

Yeah, well that vid from '09 doesn't help the whole, "It's a 1 run game" story. Why hit someone in a 1 run game in the fourth inning in a 1-1 count. I don't think Ellis and Grienke dialed it up, I think Grienke decided to plunk rather than serve up a fastball down the pipe or give him a free pass.

If Greinke has such great control as Bowser says, why did he miss the glove by 3 feet with a fastball up and in?

My point is if Zach wanted to hit him, he would have put one on his bean bag, not grazed his arm.

Maybe the scouting reports showed Quentin likes to chase fastballs up and in?

[KChiefer]

Originally Posted by Bowser

My point is if Zach wanted to hit him, he would have put one on his bean bag, not grazed his arm.

Maybe the scouting reports showed Quentin likes to chase fastballs up and in?

So that's why the catcher set up low and away