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Old 11-08-2009, 04:19 PM  
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What position do we need the most in the first round?
Half of you were saying LT.

Is that still true?

Dline?
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:10 PM   #91
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How deep into the draft do you go before you stop picking the BPA and get a few people you "need"?
Free agency is for need, draft isnt.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:10 PM   #92
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But when you are this bad this is when you have a chance to draft the premier playmakers.
Like tyrone jackson or whoever the hell we took last year
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:11 PM   #93
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But when you are this bad this is when you have a chance to draft the premier playmakers.
Premier playmakers are worthless if you can't block the other guys. Lot's of playmakers come from middle and late round picks.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:11 PM   #94
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But when you are this bad this is when you have a chance to draft the premier playmakers.
Who will do what without a line to guard a QB who needs forever to throw a friggen pass? Playmakers can't make plays with our QB laying on his back.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:11 PM   #95
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Well, I think we need to start with trying for a winning record. If we can get good offensive linemen later in the draft, then so be it.

How deep into the draft do you go before you stop picking the BPA and getting a few people you "need"?
If you're talking a mid- to late-first round pick, then I can understand having some "need" factored in. And I agree that you don't draft a BPA pick in the top 5 if he plays a position you're already set at (you don't draft Matt Stafford if your #1 QB is Matt Ryan).

But the top 5-10 is a spot where you can get a surefire playmaker. If you have a shot at a clearcut playmaker at a position where you're not set with franchise-calibre talent, you never pass up on that.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:11 PM   #96
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Those guys made average RBs and QBs look like pro bowlers, and had nothing to do with the shortcomings of their team.
How about we get some playmakers and aspire to have a good line...I think I'd rather have Eric Berry and an offensive lineman in the 2nd or 3rd round than going with one with a top 10 pick.
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Who will do what without a line to guard a QB who needs forever to throw a friggen pass? Playmakers can't make plays with our QB laying on his back.
Seeing as the playmaker I'm looking at plays safety I don't think the QB matters to him.
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And those guys won us exactly nothing, good thing to aspire to.
And why didnt the Chiefs win those years?
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Who will do what without a line to guard a QB who needs forever to throw a friggen pass? Playmakers can't make plays with our QB laying on his back.
Again, not saying first round, but somewhere in the draft, we really need to pick up something. Fill in the rest with FA.
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We got our damn FIRST ROUND ****ing Left tackle we dont need another one. Damn people get this in your damn ****ing little ****ing heads. We need guards and a right tackle, which you dont take in the ****ing top 5 were we will be picking.
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Dude, you are KIDDING me.

It is a LOT harder to find a playmaker in later rounds than it is to find solid starters in later rounds. EXPONENTIALLY tougher.

Justin Blalock is probably one of the best Guards to enter the draft over the last few years. He's playing outstanding Guard over in Atlanta. Guess when he was picked? 2nd round, #39.

Why do people not see that you can pick up the best Guards and Centers with our three 2nd and 3rd round picks without blowing a pick in the top 5?
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I'm probably going to sound like a dick when I say this but frankly, this team has 1 offensive player worth a damn.

I'm not passing on Eric Berry to protect Matt Cassel because frankly, I think Cassel is a bum.
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You know Mecca, you talk a lot about draft value, I'm surprised you consider a safety to be worthy of a top 5 pick.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of too many top 5 safeties. Taylor maybe? and he didn't really live up to the pick.
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I'm probably going to sound like a dick when I say this but frankly, this team has 1 offensive player worth a damn.

I'm not passing on Eric Berry to protect Matt Cassel because frankly, I think Cassel is a bum.
Well it seems like the people who get paid to figure out the best people to draft clearly disagree with you. In the past 10 drafts there has been a OT taken in the first 5 picks in every draft except 2. 3 times 2 OT went in the top 5. Only 1 S has gone in the top 5 a the 5th pick. Only a few times has one gone in the top 15.

You must be smarter than the NFL draft experts.
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You know Mecca, you talk a lot about draft value, I'm surprised you consider a safety to be worthy of a top 5 pick.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of too many top 5 safeties. Taylor maybe? and he didn't really live up to the pick.
There's been a few, Eric Turner went 2nd.

Value matters to an extent but you make exceptions for rare players. Eric Berry looks like Ed Reed, Taylor Mays is a physical freak, you don't see guys like this often they are rare rare players.
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