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googlegoogle · 11-08-2009, 04:19 PM

Half of you were saying LT.

Is that still true?

Dline?

milkman · 11-08-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

You can get any postion at any point in the draft. Look at Colston undrafted WR. The farther down the draft the high chance of getting a miss. We need on LT that can play from day 1 not grow into the position.

LT for reasons already stated is the only choice to make.
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So let's take Russel Okung, who by the way is slow of foot, and only looks like a first round pick because he plays in a spread and doesn't have to hold blocks.

I can't even begin to say how awkward and slow he looked against Texaz, falling on his ass more than a couple of times when he missed blocks cause he was to slow to get a body on a quick Texas defender.

Shox · 11-08-2009, 07:57 PM

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ChiefsCountry · 11-08-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So let's take Russel Okung, who by the way is slow of foot, and only looks like a first round pick because he plays in a spread and doesn't have to hold blocks.

I can't even begin to say how awkward and slow he looked against Texaz, falling on his ass more than a couple of times when he missed blocks cause he was to slow to get a body on a quick Texas defender.

Heck freaking MU made Okung look bad.

Shox · 11-08-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So let's take Russel Okung, who by the way is slow of foot, and only looks like a first round pick because he plays in a spread and doesn't have to hold blocks.

I can't even begin to say how awkward and slow he looked against Texaz, falling on his ass more than a couple of times when he missed blocks cause he was to slow to get a body on a quick Texas defender.

I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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Mecca · 11-08-2009, 08:02 PM

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I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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Yea there's not I pointed it out earlier in the thread...

ChiefsCountry · 11-08-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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He is the #1 LT prospect and you wanted to draft a LT.

milkman · 11-08-2009, 08:03 PM

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I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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Okung is/is going to be the highest rated LT in this draft.

He wouldn't even be among the top 3 or 4 in the last draft.

jspchief · 11-08-2009, 08:04 PM

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we can get oline later in the draft or FA

Which explains why there are so many teams with horrible O-lines

RedThat · 11-08-2009, 08:04 PM

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I hate our offensive line obsessed fan base.

I LOVE OFFENSIVE LINEMAN! I ****N LOVE EM!

I remember the days when I would watch Roaf and Shields drive guys into the ground, I used to have a boner that would go past the ceiling.

Ahh...There not sexy picks, I'll admit..But I think I do love lineman though. They're the blue collared guys who make the difference. The lunch pail bucket guys who love to get dirty. How can one not love that? It's no coincedence why the offense was so effective in the past when we had Shields, Roaf, Tait, Waters, and Wiegmann. Guys who can actually block compared to the scrubs we have today. Guys who played with a mean streak and got nasty and kick the sh*t out of people. Yeeeeahhhh baby! That's what Im talking about and those are the type of players I want on this team.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 08:06 PM

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I LOVE OFFENSIVE LINEMAN! I ****N LOVE EM!

I remember the days when I would watch Roaf and Shields drive guys into the ground, I used to have a boner that would go past the ceiling.

Ahh...There not sexy picks, I'll admit..But I think I do love lineman though. They're the blue collared guys who make the difference. The lunch pail bucket guys who love to get dirty. How can one not love that? It's no coincedence why the offense was so effective in the past when we had Shields, Roaf, Tait, Waters, and Wiegmann. Guys who can actually block compared to the scrubs we have today. Guys who played with a mean streak and got nasty and kick the sh*t out of people. Yeeeeahhhh baby! That's what Im talking about and those are the type of players I want on this team.

And those guys won us exactly nothing, good thing to aspire to.

Shox · 11-08-2009, 08:07 PM

Peters just went down for the Eagles. Watch the Dallas D takeover this game. You win in the trenches and you have a chance. Yu can't win in the trenches you have no chance.

1st play LT does not lineup right and gets a penalty.
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**luv** · 11-08-2009, 08:07 PM

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Great O-Lines win a lot of games.

Great playmakers win championships.

Well, I think we need to start with trying for a winning record. If we can get good offensive linemen later in the draft, then so be it.

How deep into the draft do you go before you stop picking the BPA and get a few people you "need"?

chiefzilla1501 · 11-08-2009, 08:08 PM

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The Oline is by far the worst unit on the team and they make all of skill guys on offense look worse.

Draft a LT and and you make two spots on the Oline better. Albert gets to move to RT and you have now upgraded two spots greatly. This make Cassell, Bowe, RB everybody better on the offense.

The is far from a great NFL defense, but if our offense could get a few 1st downs the other team would not get nearly as many shots.

Getting a stud LT makes 2 Oline positions better, helps the skill guys and should help the defense. No other draft pick can do this for the Chiefs.
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If Albert still has potential to be a good Left Tackle, then you wasted a 5th round pick on a guard.

And I think less than a handful of Guards in history have been drafted in the top 20.

How about this. You draft the top Guard in the draft in the second round. You let Albert keep improving. And guess what, you got better at two positions, and you didn't waste your first round pick? Sounds like a plan to me.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 08:09 PM

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Well, I think we need to start with trying for a winning record. If we can get good offensive linemen later in the draft, then so be it.

How deep into the draft do you go before you stop picking the BPA and getting a few people you "need"?

But when you are this bad this is when you have a chance to draft the premier playmakers.

jspchief · 11-08-2009, 08:09 PM

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And those guys won us exactly nothing, good thing to aspire to.

Those guys made average RBs and QBs look like pro bowlers, and had nothing to do with the shortcomings of their team.

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