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Old 12-19-2000, 06:01 AM  
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Sparked by other conversations, Bob Dole was discussing KC's QB situation with another KC fan at the bar last evening when we arrived at a point of disagreement.

Most of the people here want Elvis to renegotiate his contract and return next season. Most of us also agree that Warren isn't the backup we perhaps thought he was prior to the San Diego game. Bob Dole assumes Collins in a big [b]?[/b] since there's never really much discussion about him.

The point of disagreement was whether we should find a QB with a "style" similar to Elvis', or find a QB that "compliments" Elvis.

Bob Dole's position was that we should acquire a 2nd QB with a similar style of play (i.e. primarily a pocket passer as opposed to a scrambler). The primary reason for this position is that differing style would require significant adjustments to play calling, blocking schemes, etc., where a QB with similar style could be more "plug and play."
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:24 PM   #106
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If I had to pick a QB to draft, I would try Drew Henson. I have heard several college guys say he has the strongest arm of any college qb.

As far as Michael Bishop is concerned, I agree that he does not understand, or even want to understand the playbook. I saw an interview just a couple of days ago with some k-state coaches, and they said that 80% of the time he did not run the play they called. The said he just had a special talent for creating plays, stopping just short of saying he didn't study or know the playbook.

Maybe he just needs someone to motivate him to learn the plays. Coaches get paid big bucks to design high powered offenses, and players who can't do what the coaches ask, don't play.

Just my opinion.

I personally want a DB or DE/DT....maybe Damione Lewis from Miami.
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:33 PM   #107
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Well it depends on which team you believe the “Real” Chiefs are. Are they the team that bulldozed the hapless donks defense? Are they the team that outscored the previously un-beaten Rams? Or are they the bumbling fools whom lost to San Deago and New England? If you believe the Chiefs have the talent to compete with the big boys but have been grossly mismanaged the only logical thing to do would be to pick up a veteran QB as our 2nd stringer. If you think that we are just beginning our rebuilding the thing to do is draft our QBOTF. With worst to first turn around becoming so common I think the thing to do is somewhere in the middle. Draft a QB but not in the 1st or 2nd round and see if you can develop him and pick up a competent backup for a year or two.
In answer to your original question. I think you draft the mobile athletic QB. You can teach a player patience but you can’t teach him speed.
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:33 PM   #108
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Henson will be the 1st QB taken this year if he comes out early...Very possibly the 1st pick in the draft going to SD...I am sure they will do a little better background check this time around however...<BR>
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:36 PM   #109
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:39 PM   #110
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The argument that a mobile QB wouldn't fit into the Chief's offensive "scheme" is invalid.

The moment a QB begins improvising, the scheme goes out the window, thus the term "improvising". When a pass play breaks down, EVERYONE must improvise. The OL. The WRs. Any HB or FB left in the backfield as a blocker, AND the QB.

"Fitting into a scheme" and never wavering from that scheme whatsoever is something that immobile statues must do to be successful. When improvisation becomes necessary, the statues almost always crumble...like an android trying to calculate pi.
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:40 PM   #111
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Bob Dole feels that San Diego will acquire Frerotte through FA and draft McAllister.

We also need to consider our salary cap situation and the expense of first round picks relative to their position. (Just tossing out another variable...)

Bob Dole does not feel that there will be a first round draft pick worth the expense just to sit on the bench for at least a year.
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:41 PM   #112
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:47 PM   #113
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"Bwana: send him to the XFL where his 'tude would be appreciated."

Not a bad idea! So when does that start...Feb? Which network is going to feed those games?
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:53 PM   #114
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Yep, February. For those of you that didnt know, Rashaan Shehee is playing for the Las Vegas Outlaws.
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:54 PM   #115
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A pocket passer would be fine, but let's just draft one out of college rather than try to pick up a free agent. Any names come to mind?<BR>
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Old 12-19-2000, 02:01 PM   #116
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NBC will broadcast some Saturday night XFL games.

[i]Matt Vasgersian will join Jesse Ventura in the booth for the NBC Saturday night XFL broadcast. In addition, Mike Adamle and Fred Roggin will handle the reporting duties. [/i]

Bob Dole seems to remember UPN and TNN will also carry some.

Now back to the damned topic.
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Old 12-19-2000, 02:16 PM   #117
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I would not be the least bit surprised if we grab Jamar Fletcher(Wisc/CB) or Fred Smoot(MSU/CB) with our 1st pick. Hasty is getting very long in the tooth and I bet the coaching staff cringes at the thought of Dennis and Warfield being the two starting corners.
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Old 12-19-2000, 02:20 PM   #118
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Old 12-19-2000, 02:31 PM   #119
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Give me to goods on Mario Fatafehi...I only watched one KState game this year so I don't have much to go on.
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Old 12-19-2000, 02:37 PM   #120
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Fatafehi won't last past the 2nd round.

His stock continues to rise.

He'll be a mid second round pick by the time the draft starts. If the Chiefs want him, it'll be in the second.
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