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Old 10-30-2013, 05:07 PM  
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Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown'
Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown'

By Dan Hanzus
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Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week.

NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources.

Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground."

The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources.

Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday.

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I don't disagree with any of this, but I believe that even the guilty deserve their day in court.
Do you have to presume that the other guy is a fan of Bin Laden or practices dog fighting for that day in court to occur?
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That seems like a strange connection to draw.
Yes, it's kind of extreme, but my point is that Wallace hasn't exactly demonstrated that he knows how to avoid being a distraction in the locker room himself, so his credibility is very low on this topic.
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So is Patteeu bringing up Martin's sexuality because him being gay makes it okay for Incognito to abuse him? I'm confused.

Cause if not, why even bring it up?
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Do you have to presume that the other guy is a fan of Bin Laden or practices dog fighting for that day in court to occur?
Does it matter?
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So is Patteeu bringing up Martin's sexuality because him being gay makes it okay for Incognito to abuse him? I'm confused.

Cause if not, why even bring it up?
What gave you that idea? Was it is post where he explicitly stated the opposite of that?
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Feigning disgust isn't going to make it any less accurate or even address the point at hand. Mike Wallace has not exactly been the shining beacon of maturity. Good try, good effort.
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What gave you that idea? Was it is post where he explicitly stated the opposite of that?
Once again, why bring it up then?

It doesn't make any sense to bring it up if you're going to later on say that it doesn't matter. If it matters, bring it up, if it doesn't, then don't. You can't have it both ways.
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Does it matter?
I think it does. We are free to make judgments based upon the evidence. You are also aware of the fact that this thread has grown exponentially today--once the content of Incognito's messages were released. He's had five days to respond and he's formulated no response. He has an awful reputation.

This isn't a lynch mob forming fifteen minutes after the thread was posted. To call it a lynch mob could not be more inaccurate.
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Feigning disgust isn't going to make it any less accurate or even address the point at hand. Mike Wallace has not exactly been the shining beacon of maturity. Good try, good effort.
My daughter said the bus driver was touching her little brother inappropriately...but she also forgets to make her bed sometimes...so I shouldn't bother looking into it.
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Once again, why bring it up then?

It doesn't make any sense to bring it up if you're going to later on say that it doesn't matter. If it matters, bring it up, if it doesn't, then don't. You can't have it both ways.
You have it all wrong. patteeu is operating on a meta-level. By mentioning Martin's sexuality he's shining the light on our unspoken intolerance of gays. When we don't mention his sexual orientation as a factor it's because we secretly abhor him.
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Once again, why bring it up then?

It doesn't make any sense to bring it up if you're going to later on say that it doesn't matter. If it matters, bring it up, if it doesn't, then don't. You can't have it both ways.
Give him a minute to answer, and I'll bet we find that he has a better explanation than the motive you assigned him. Funny given the current discussion...
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My daughter said the bus driver was touching her little brother inappropriately...but she also forgets to make her bed sometimes...so I shouldn't bother looking into it.
That is quite a melodramatic leap in logic.
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I think it does. We are free to make judgments based upon the evidence. You are also aware of the fact that this thread has grown exponentially today--once the content of Incognito's messages were released. He's had five days to respond and he's formulated no response. He has an awful reputation.

This isn't a lynch mob forming fifteen minutes after the thread was posted. To call it a lynch mob could not be more inaccurate.
It's a mob demanding a lynching. Call it what you will.
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That is quite a melodramatic leap in logic.
Yet it's the same flawed reasoning.
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Yet it's the same flawed reasoning.
Not making the bed is equivalent to pouting, child molestation, bullying and potential extortion? That's extremely melodramatic.
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