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Old 11-07-2013, 01:51 PM  
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Police stun stepdad trying to save son from fire
ST. LOUIS (AP) — The family of a 3-year-old killed in a northern Missouri house fire says it is outraged after police used a stun gun on the boy's stepfather as he tried to run back in and save the child.

Riley Miller died early Oct. 31 in the Mississippi River town of Louisiana. A city police officer fired his stun gun at Ryan Miller as he tried to re-enter his burning home, which was destroyed.

Grandmother Lori Miller says she witnessed two officers use the stun gun three times, twice after Ryan Miller had been handcuffed.

Miller suffered chest burns and was later released from the city jail without being charged.

The family says it is considering legal action against the city.

City Administrator Bob Jenne called the police response a "judgment call."

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Old 11-07-2013, 03:54 PM   #61
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If a fireman in full gear won't go in, the stepfather isn't getting in. It's really that simple.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:55 PM   #62
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18 seconds.
On average, it takes 18 agonizing seconds for a child to die in a fire.


This is one of the few stories posted here that makes me physically ill.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:55 PM   #63
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Since he was trying to break down the front door, I'm assuming that the path from the room they woke up in must have been blocked by the fire.
And by that time....the kid is gone.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:03 PM   #64
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I can understand the police actions if the firefighters are actively fighting the fire and someone trying to run back in would interfere with their efforts. If it's just a bunch of people standing around watching a house burn, then let the guy try to get his kid.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:25 PM   #65
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What is a three year old doing inside of a house, let alone a burning house, by himself?
Clearly starting fires is the answer to this question.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:27 PM   #66
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Hardly, but I'm guessing you are not a parent.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:29 PM   #67
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If you don't have the freedom to try and save your own child's life you really have nothing.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:36 PM   #68
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this "father" had his rambo moment. Its too bad he spent it running out the back door per say the other news article. This father probably could circumvent his whole house crawling on his knees with a blindfold on, but he spent his heroic effort making his way out the back hatch.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:38 PM   #69
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Too many liberal lovers here saying cops should decide what's best for us. If he wanted to go back in that's his choice.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:42 PM   #70
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Too many liberal lovers here saying cops should decide what's best for us. If he wanted to go back in that's his choice.
This n00b is going to fit in nicely with the "red BUT NOT THAT KIND OF RED I'M NOT A COMMUNIST YOU ARE" crowd at CP.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:49 PM   #71
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I'm with you, Jimmya, and Big Daddy, and everyone else who said the decision should have been the man's. Yeah, he might have died going in, or the kid might have already been gone, but (and call my old-fashioned) it's a man's purpose in life to try.

Beyond just this instance, this is a problem with tasers, pepper spray, and other less-lethal weapons since their introduction a decade or two ago; instead of having their use replacing lethal force - as they were intended and advertised - their use is in many cases replacing the lack of force.
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It's not their place to make that decision.
It is their job. To serve and protect is what they are supposed to do. If the house is a raging inferno and they know it is a suicide mission for the father to enter the house, they have an obligation to stop him.

Oh, and before the obligatory "you must not have kids" post. I have a 2 year old son and I would absolutely try to go in after him, but I would also understand the cops doing what they could to stop me.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:55 PM   #73
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18 seconds.
On average, it takes 18 agonizing seconds for a child to die in a fire.


This is one of the few stories posted here that makes me physically ill.
Hope your little man is still doing well. This story probably hits a little too close to home.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:01 PM   #74
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**** that, if my child is in a burning house I'm doing everything I can to get them out, if I die trying so be it but Id rather die trying than live knowing I didn't try. Anyone else can get bent.
If I were the cop, I would have let the parent go in. I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't. There is no good answer to that situation.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:03 PM   #75
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I have 3 daughters, moron.
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