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In58men · 11-11-2013, 05:45 PM

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How ****ing reeruned are these kids?

|Zach| · 11-13-2013, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

He could have told Eric something like this: "Hey Eric, I notice you are trying to build a bomb, can you tell me why you are doing that? Also, why do you have all this hate speech laying around? Who do you hate so much and why? Oh, and what are all these semi-auto guns doing here, and all this ammunition? Hey, if you want to go hunting, or go to the range (because I'm a former military guy myself) why don't we go this weekend? Eric, I love you and I want what is best for you, can we spend some more time together?"

something like that?

Did he know about the existence of all these things?

This is my main point. You can't legislate the turn around of an apathetic parent. And someone who isn't listening obviously doesn't think that worse case scenario applies to them.

Tombstone RJ · 11-13-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Did he know about the existence of all these things?

This is my main point. You can't legislate the turn around of an apathetic parent. And someone who isn't listening obviously doesn't think that worse case scenario applies to them.

The point is that Eric's dad never went into Eric's room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When the police went into Eric's room after the tragedy they found all this stuff all over his rooom, it was everywhere.

Eric's dad was not involved in his life. Period. End of story.

**The Franchise** · 11-13-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

The point is that Eric's dad never went into Eric's room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When the police went into Eric's room after the tragedy they found all this stuff all over his rooom, it was everywhere.

Eric's dad was not involved in his life. Period. End of story.

So prosecuting his Dad after the fact would have done what? Scared other parents into caring? Punished him even more than he already has been?

|Zach| · 11-13-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Eric's dad was not involved in his life. Period. End of story.

That is my point as well.

Yet for some reason you think that some weird law would make this not be the case.

"oh hey, I am pretty apathetic about this parenting thing...but i saw on tv parents can get in trouble if their kids are. That is it...I am going to start getting involved"

Tombstone RJ · 11-13-2013, 12:13 PM

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So prosecuting his Dad after the fact would have done what? Scared other parents into caring? Punished him even more than he already has been?

No, the possibility of prosecuting Eric's father would have perhaps PREVENTED this tragedy. That's the point.

**The Franchise** · 11-13-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

No, the possibility of prosecuting Eric's father would have perhaps PREVENTED this tragedy. That's the point.

If the parent is not in the kid's life.....the threat of prosecution is not going to force them to be.

Tombstone RJ · 11-13-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

That is my point as well.

Yet for some reason you think that some weird law would make this not be the case.

"oh hey, I am pretty apathetic about this parenting thing...but i saw on tv parents can get in trouble if their kids are. That is it...I am going to start getting involved"

Eric Harris had a police record buddy, you tell me what kind of warning signs are needed for a parent to be involved.

good lord you are a class A moron.

Fish · 11-13-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

If Harris's father thought he might end up in prison because his son was a total psycho? I think he would have done something more. Hell, even if he got into Eric's face and Eric killed him, then Eric would have never been able to do the Columbine thing.

Totally logical.

No, I still completely disagree. Your typical parent would completely deny their own child has a problem as long as possible. In many cases the parents would deny it even after the child had done something horrible.

I have no idea where you're going with the Eric killing Dad line though... WTF?

Tombstone RJ · 11-13-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If the parent is not in the kid's life.....the threat of prosecution is not going to force them to be.

How do you know?

Tombstone RJ · 11-13-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

No, I still completely disagree. Your typical parent would completely deny their own child has a problem as long as possible. In many cases the parents would deny it even after the child had done something horrible.

I have no idea where you're going with the Eric killing Dad line though... WTF?

see post 203

|Zach| · 11-13-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

How do you know?

Because we are people who live in reality.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-13-2013, 12:17 PM

[quote=|Zach|;10183761]What would we have intervened?

I have no doubt if he knew this rule was around he wouldnt have thought it applied to him.

He obviously wasn't listening to his kid.[/quote]

see? parents fault

|Zach| · 11-13-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Eric Harris had a police record buddy, you tell me what kind of warning signs are needed for a parent to be involved.

good lord you are a class A moron.

The points you make keep backing up my main point.

You keep bringing up factors that would be MUCH more likely for a parent to get involved than a law.

**The Franchise** · 11-13-2013, 12:17 PM

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Because we are people who live in reality.

I was hoping I wasn't the only one.

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