Chiefs Don't jump off that bandwagon just yet... - Page 2

Nightfyre · 11-18-2013, 03:40 AM

Fellow planeteers –

We Chiefs fans have a well-earned pessimistic outlook with respect to the performance of our football team. While the loss yesterday may have taken the wind from our sails, there is still reason for hope going forward.

Worry not, for even the mighty 2000 Ravens that this team is often compared to, lost four regular season games, was the fifth seed and even gave up 36 points in one game. That team went on to win a Super Bowl. This defense might be even better. They faced the vaunted Denver offense and gave up 27 points despite being left on the field quite consistently and often defending a short field. Further, I strongly believe that this team can beat Denver at home. Hell, this game was a few breaks from going KC’s way even in Denver.

Now the offense leaves quite a bit to be desired. Probably even moreso than the 2000 Ravens offense. I still believe, for that the talent is there for an average offensive output. Charles is probably still the second best back in the league. You have talent in Albert/Hudson/Asamoah/Fisher on the offensive line. And you have Bowe and Avery on the outside, and they are not inadequate. Alex Smith is Alex Smith. But look at that and tell me you can’t contrive some form of success from the running game with this group. I can’t be sure why we are not seeing better results, but I am sure given the available talent there, we can get more from the offense.

The point, my brothers (and sisters

), is that there is hope for the future. For the remainder of this year and in years looking forward. We should not lay down as fans at the first sign of adversity. We should not cave into our blood-tinted and pessimistic view of the world. We should pick ourselves up and have hope. For the most important thing I realized after the loss, is that the Chiefs still control their own destiny.

Red Dawg · 11-18-2013, 11:05 AM

Beat them at Arrowhead and hope we don't face them in the playoffs. We are still in good position to have the one seed.

Discuss Thrower · 11-18-2013, 11:10 AM

Who cares about the playoffs. Alex Smith isn't winning jack for KC this year and hopefully is benched for a rookie next year.

**Nzoner** · 11-18-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Who cares about the playoffs. Alex Smith isn't winning jack for KC this year and hopefully is benched for a rookie next year.

The 2000 Ravens lost 3 straight games(2 at home) and scored a total of 33 points in doing so with Tony Banks and Trent Dilfer.

salame · 11-18-2013, 11:19 AM

9 wins is a big deal
they aren't a super bowl team and only a HOMER would think that they were

Discuss Thrower · 11-18-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

The 2000 Ravens lost 3 straight games(2 at home) and scored a total of 33 points in doing so with Tony Banks and Trent Dilfer.

It's 2013. You have to have a quarterback capable of throwing for more than 5 yards an attempt and can hang 275+ in non garbage time situations.

And clearly the defense isn't as good as it supposedly is considering it can't sack anyone now.

Mama Hip Rockets · 11-18-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Beating Denver in Denver is tall task for any team.

As much as we wanted this game, this is the truth. Denver had been averaging 44 points a game at home. The Chiefs held them to 27. Denver had been winning by an average of 22 points at home. They beat the Chiefs by 10.

This thing is far from over.

houstonwhodat · 11-18-2013, 11:29 AM

Texans went 12-0 last year.

How'd that turn out?

**Bearcat** · 11-18-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

The 2000 Ravens lost 3 straight games(2 at home) and scored a total of 33 points in doing so with Tony Banks and Trent Dilfer.

Maybe with a legit QB and another playmaker or two, we won't be forced to go back 13 years to find examples of similar teams that have won a SB.

In 110 games, Manning has lost 4 times when the opponent scores fewer than 21 points, so it can be done!!!

**Nzoner** · 11-18-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's 2013. You have to have a quarterback capable of throwing for more than 5 yards an attempt and can hang 275+ in non garbage time situations.

And clearly the defense isn't as good as it supposedly is considering it can't sack anyone now.

Sorry I'm not going to let myself get down yet,there's too much football left to play and I've seen crazier shit happen.As for Alex,I won't disagree but it would help if his receivers could catch a damn cold.

**Nzoner** · 11-18-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Maybe with a legit QB and another playmaker or two, we won't be forced to go back 13 years to find examples of similar teams that have won a SB.

In 110 games, Manning has lost 4 times when the opponent scores fewer than 21 points, so it can be done!!!

I think it's 106 games

Down4Chiefs · 11-18-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

That can not be said enough

its not said enough. Our offensive talent is limited I understand,but I thought Reid was an offensive guru? All I know is ive seen a lot of what seems to be boneheaded play calls from a guru.

Its obvious Reid still has no trust in Jamal Charles who is the all time leader in yards per carry. Which is nothing new,he didn't trust McCoy in Philly either.

And its obvious he doesn't have much trust in his offense as a unit either. You can practically see when he starts calling plays to not lose versus trying to win the game. He opened it up last night and I saw good things happening with the offense,but I also so it go back to conservative once we got back in reach. instead of continuing to do what got them within reach.

Maybe playing safe to prevent turnovers isn't bad play calling with this defense. Its hard to argue with the results,but in this game in particular it cost us. Had we played with our foot on the gas all night on offense I see a different outcome

FringeNC · 11-18-2013, 11:35 AM

We're not the best team in the AFC, but with some luck, we can still get HFA, and it will be hard for any team to come into Arrowhead and beat us with this D. All is not lost, but obviously we're not not a great team, and Dorsey and Reid have a lot of work to do on the offense in the offseason.

**Bearcat** · 11-18-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

I think it's 106 games

106 losses for opponents, including last night... 4-106. Seems to be about the same chance as winning deep in the playoffs these days without an offense that can put up points.

**Nzoner** · 11-18-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

106 losses for opponents, including last night... 4-106. Seems to be about the same chance as winning deep in the playoffs these days without an offense that can put up points.

It's a new era it's all about fantasy football and scoring.Again,no matter what I read today I'm still excited,KC still plays next week with a lot to play for and as long as that remains a reality all is good in my football world.

**Bearcat** · 11-18-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

It's a new era it's all about fantasy football and scoring.Again,no matter what I read today I'm still excited,KC still plays next week with a lot to play for and as long as that remains a reality all is good in my football world.

Yeah... and despite the typical fickle threads after a loss, it's not like we learned anything. I don't have any less hope that they can win in the playoffs... they might be able to knock off one team, but unless the offense significantly improves, I just don't see much more than that this year... and there's no problem with that, as long as Reid and Dorsey aren't as blinded by their record as some here have been.

11-18-2013, 03:40 AM
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1348849	Don't jump off that bandwagon just yet... Fellow planeteers – We Chiefs fans have a well-earned pessimistic outlook with respect to the performance of our football team. While the loss yesterday may have taken the wind from our sails, there is still reason for hope going forward. Worry not, for even the mighty 2000 Ravens that this team is often compared to, lost four regular season games, was the fifth seed and even gave up 36 points in one game. That team went on to win a Super Bowl. This defense might be even better. They faced the vaunted Denver offense and gave up 27 points despite being left on the field quite consistently and often defending a short field. Further, I strongly believe that this team can beat Denver at home. Hell, this game was a few breaks from going KC’s way even in Denver. Now the offense leaves quite a bit to be desired. Probably even moreso than the 2000 Ravens offense. I still believe, for that the talent is there for an average offensive output. Charles is probably still the second best back in the league. You have talent in Albert/Hudson/Asamoah/Fisher on the offensive line. And you have Bowe and Avery on the outside, and they are not inadequate. Alex Smith is Alex Smith. But look at that and tell me you can’t contrive some form of success from the running game with this group. I can’t be sure why we are not seeing better results, but I am sure given the available talent there, we can get more from the offense. The point, my brothers (and sisters ), is that there is hope for the future. For the remainder of this year and in years looking forward. We should not lay down as fans at the first sign of adversity. We should not cave into our blood-tinted and pessimistic view of the world. We should pick ourselves up and have hope. For the most important thing I realized after the loss, is that the Chiefs still control their own destiny.
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11-18-2013, 11:35 AM	#27
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1623986	We're not the best team in the AFC, but with some luck, we can still get HFA, and it will be hard for any team to come into Arrowhead and beat us with this D. All is not lost, but obviously we're not not a great team, and Dorsey and Reid have a lot of work to do on the offense in the offseason.
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