Famous Jameis...Rapist?

[nychief]

Don't know if you're following the Jameis Winston rape coverup - but seems like a pretty dirty deal happening down in Tampa.

New statement from the victim's family...
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2013/PDFs/winston.pdf

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

They found DNA evidence of another male and were able to identify him and talk to him.

So either she had consensual sex with one and not the other or with both because there is has been no mention of her being assaulted by more than one person this whole time.

So the second person wasn't her boyfriend?

[KCUnited]

I can't imagine raping a chick and then finding out she'd been pied by some other dude earlier that night. Gross.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by jspchief

So the second person wasn't her boyfriend?

I don't know, all I heard them say is they identified the person and spoke with them.

They also stated there were several people in the room when this indecent took place and they talked with all of them.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

They found DNA evidence of another male and were able to identify him and talk to him.

So either she had consensual sex with one and not the other or with both because there is has been no mention of her being assaulted by more than one person this whole time.

BOOOM called it

[Great Expectations]

Originally Posted by SNR

I admittedly know nothing about the legal system, but there's no way the accuser's attorney can... I don't know if this is the correct term, but "appeal" the decision to not charge Winston? I know citizens have legal rights and this is probably one that falls under a double jeopardy sort of thing, where the law can't rule one way and then come back and say, "Actually, just one more thing..." Yes, I know double jeopardy is a thing for accused persons, not a factor in deciding if you're going to charge somebody.

That's just what makes this thing so damn bizarre. This wasn't a thing about determining guilt, only if the courts wanted to investigate a crime. They decided no. I'm wondering what avenues the accuser's attorney has to go through if he believes that's a bullshit ruling. Are there any avenues at all?

Jameis hasn't been charged with anything so revisiting the evidence isn't double jeopardizing him of anything. This would be reopening the investigation which is fairly common if new evidence presents itself, which in this case would likely be TPD corruption.

[ThaVirus]

I wouldn't expect to see any "new" evidence creep up until after the title game if it ever does.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I find it hard to have much credibility in the police and prosecuting attorneys given the manner in which they've handled themselves throughout the entire debacle.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I find it hard to have much credibility in the police and prosecuting attorneys given the manner in which they've handled themselves throughout the entire debacle.

I haven't followed it real closely, but I can't shake the impression that from the start, the investigation catered to protecting Winston.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by jspchief

I haven't followed it real closely, but I can't shake the impression that from the start, the investigation catered to protecting Winston.

Here's the AP report. It's pretty succinct:

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida State quarterback and Heisman Trophy candidate Jameis Winston will not be charged with sexually assaulting a woman who accused him of raping her about a year ago, a prosecutor said Thursday.


State Attorney Willie Meggs made the announcement at a news conference, saying there was not enough evidence to win a conviction.
"After reviewing all the evidence in the case, we did not feel like we could meet that burden," Meggs said.


A search warrant from January, released hours before the news conference, detailed the woman's accusations for the first time. She told police she and friends had five to six shots at a bar and her "memory is very broken from that point forward." She said she remembered being in a cab with a "non-descript" black man and going into an apartment where she was raped.


The woman didn't identify Winston, who is black, until about a month after the alleged assault.


Winston, 19, has led the Seminoles to a No. 1 ranking and a shot at a national championship if they defeat Duke on Saturday.


Many Heisman voters were waiting to see whether Winston will be charged with a crime before casting their ballots. The deadline for ballots is Monday, and the trophy is awarded Dec. 14.


The details of the alleged rape were contained in a search warrant for cellphone records, including text messages. It was dated Jan. 16, six days after the woman identified Winston.


The warrant said she tried to fight the man off, and at some point, another man came into the room and told him to stop. But the two went into a bathroom "where he completed the act."


Her next memory was of the suspect dressing her, putting her on a scooter and dropping her off at a campus intersection. She said she had no idea where the alleged assault took place.


In the short time since Meggs' office took over the case, investigators have taken DNA from Winston, interviewed the alleged victim and looked at other evidence.


Meggs said DNA found in the accuser's underwear matched Winston. Winston's attorney, Timothy Jansen, has suggested Winston had consensual sex with the accuser and he expects the prosecutor will exonerate his client.


Jansen planned to address the media later Thursday.


Patricia Carroll, the attorney representing the alleged victim, has not responded to requests for comment. Her office is expected to release a brief statement after the prosecutor's announcement.


The alleged sexual assault was first reported to police on Dec. 7, 2012. The family has said the alleged victim did not know the identity of her attacker until early January. Police said last week that they tried to interview Winston in January but that Jansen at the time told them his client would not answer questions.


The family has been sharply critical of the way Tallahassee police have handled the case. They said they pushed to have a DNA sample taken from Winston, only to be told by a police detective that it would alert Winston and make the case public. The family said Carroll was warned by police that Tallahassee is a "big football town, and the victim needs to think long and hard before proceeding against him because she will be raked over the coals and her life will be made miserable."


Tallahassee police have defended their handling of the case and said it was placed on inactive status in February after police were told the alleged victim did not wish to prosecute the case. Carroll has denied that the woman wanted to drop the investigation.


The alleged victim was an FSU student, but she left school last month.

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I can't imagine raping a chick and then finding out she'd been pied by some other dude earlier that night. Gross.

Yeah. Always make sure a chick hasn't been recently boned before you rape her.

[BlackHelicopters]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I can't imagine raping a chick and then finding out she'd been pied by some other dude earlier that night. Gross.

What?

[Prison Bitch]

Thanks Hamas for that report. Which mentions the shots she was taking and inferring she was wasted. Too bad that report didn't mention that she only blew a .04 at the time of the rape test which completely undercuts the idea she was wasted.

[Gravedigger]

This sounds like all the parents idea to try and charge him. Like the girl's parents found out and just went apeshit even though she wasn't entirely sure who the person was who assaulted her. She probably just wants to move on with her life but now she'll be forever connected to this so whether it's her or her parents going off questionable evidence and accounts of broken drunken stupidity, have fun with the reaping that you've sewn!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Thanks Hamas for that report. Which mentions the shots she was taking and inferring she was wasted. Too bad that report didn't mention that she only blew a .04 at the time of the rape test which completely undercuts the idea she was wasted.

It does precisely the opposite:

Although Meggs refused to speculate why, he did point to an analysis of a blood-alcohol test taken several hours after the alleged attack that showed that her blood-alcohol content at the time of the incident could have been 0.10 percent, even though when it was taken the test registered a 0.04 reading. The 0.10 reading would have been higher than the 0.08 legal limit for driving.
The clear implication of Meggs' use of the extrapolated blood alcohol levels was to show that the accuser may have been in the brownout or blackout stage of intoxication, a probable cause of the memory gaps.


http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...clear-decision

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It does precisely the opposite:

Although Meggs refused to speculate why, he did point to an analysis of a blood-alcohol test taken several hours after the alleged attack that showed that her blood-alcohol content at the time of the incident could have been 0.10 percent, even though when it was taken the test registered a 0.04 reading. The 0.10 reading would have been higher than the 0.08 legal limit for driving.
The clear implication of Meggs' use of the extrapolated blood alcohol levels was to show that the accuser may have been in the brownout or blackout stage of intoxication, a probable cause of the memory gaps.


http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...clear-decision

Lightweight. That's like what two beers if that? That's enough to envoke blackouts?