Who are you Cheering for? *Part Deux*

[chaz]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

That's just because they see it all the time on medical receipts.

I think everybody got the joke, but you've been here a lot longer than me and know these people better, maybe I'm giving them more credit than they deserve.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by chaz

I think everybody got the joke, but you've been here a lot longer than me and know these people better, maybe I'm giving them more credit than they deserve.

Do you think John Elway was a good quarterback?

[chaz]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Do you think John Elway was a good quarterback?

I know he was.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by chaz

I know he was.

See? There's your problem. You don't objectively step back and look at the facts. You just believe whatever you want to believe.

Every knowledgeable analysis of football has concluded that Elway is one of the most overrated players ever. He wasn't a bad quarterback, we know that. He was serviceable for the most part, like a Jim Everett or today's Andy Dalton. He just wasn't much more than that.

Go look at the statistics of John Elway and study up on on it a little, and then we'll talk. Here are a few articles to get you started. I would encourage you to open your mind up to the possibility that the mythology of your religion may be just that - mythology.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...terbacks/6538/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...te-of-all-time

http://www.footballperspective.com/j...f-dick-butkus/

http://watercoolersportsnetwork.com/...way-overrated/

[chaz]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

See? There's your problem. You don't objectively step back and look at the facts. You just believe whatever you want to believe.

So what I gather from reading this MB is that Chiefs fans' take is that Elway wasn't all that good because stats prove it and Peyton isn't all that good because his stats are empty and he can't win in the playoffs.

Maybe, you guys just don't like the Broncos.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by chaz

So what I gather from reading this MB is that Chiefs fans' take is that Elway wasn't all that good because stats prove it and Peyton isn't all that good because his stats are empty and he can't win in the playoffs.

Maybe, you guys just don't like the Broncos.

My take is that Elway wasn't very good and Manning is very, very good. He's the sole reason that Denver will win the Super Bowl this year. He could carry a junior high team to a Super Bowl with the current rules.

Your conclusion about us not liking the Broncos is generally accurate, though for a brief point in time some of us might actually hate the Colts more.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

See? There's your problem. You don't objectively step back and look at the facts. You just believe whatever you want to believe.

Every knowledgeable analysis of football has concluded that Elway is one of the most overrated players ever. He wasn't a bad quarterback, we know that. He was serviceable for the most part, like a Jim Everett or today's Andy Dalton. He just wasn't much more than that.

Go look at the statistics of John Elway and study up on on it a little, and then we'll talk. Here are a few articles to get you started. I would encourage you to open your mind up to the possibility that the mythology of your religion may be just that - mythology.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...terbacks/6538/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...te-of-all-time

http://www.footballperspective.com/j...f-dick-butkus/

http://watercoolersportsnetwork.com/...way-overrated/

Compelling argument.

How would you rank your top 5 QBs of all time, Rain Man? Just out of curiosity..

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Compelling argument.

How would you rank your top 5 QBs of all time, Rain Man? Just out of curiosity..

Whew, that's a toughie. The current players are hard to peg right now. All time, I would go with...

1. Joe Montana. Duh.
2. Dan Marino.
3. Johnny Unitas.
4. Tom Brady.
5. Peyton Manning.

While he's no where near the top five, I have to note that Randall Cunningham may have been my favorite player to watch as a quarterback.

What's your call?

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Whew, that's a toughie. The current players are hard to peg right now. All time, I would go with...

1. Joe Montana. Duh.
2. Dan Marino.
3. Johnny Unitas.
4. Tom Brady.
5. Peyton Manning.

While he's no where near the top five, I have to note that Randall Cunningham may have been my favorite player to watch as a quarterback.

What's your call?

Your top is missing the GOAT

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Whew, that's a toughie. The current players are hard to peg right now. All time, I would go with...

1. Joe Montana. Duh.
2. Dan Marino.
3. Johnny Unitas.
4. Tom Brady.
5. Peyton Manning.

While he's no where near the top five, I have to note that Randall Cunningham may have been my favorite player to watch as a quarterback.

What's your call?

Ah, I wouldn't be able to do the list service. I was born in '89 and didn't become a die-hard fan until our '03 season.

I know you're a bit older so I figured I'd see what you thought.