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Old 01-20-2014, 12:20 AM  
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Somebody explain this nonsense to me.
As we all know, I am not a very smart person.

So in a recent thread, with Just Passin' By posted a link about Brandon Flowers' contract specifics (to answer the question "how much would we save against the cap if we cut Flowers"), I, of course, became flummoxed.

Here's the link.

So, I want you to pretend you're talking to your 12 year old son (I like to think of myself as ChiefsPlanet's 12 year old son, anyway):

What do these words mean?
  • Base Salary
  • Prorated Bonus
  • Roster Bonus
  • Workout Bonus
  • Other Bonus
  • Cap Number
  • Dead Money
  • Cap Savings
Also:
  • What's the difference between Cap Flow and Cash Flow?
  • What's a Cash Bonus?
  • What's a Cash Number?
  • What's Cash-To-Cash?
  • What the hell is on this page?
I thank you for your time.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:23 AM   #2
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Who the **** explains cash flow and shit to a 12 year old. Past your bed time anyway, jimmy.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:24 AM   #3
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You can sum up that page by simply saying Brandon Flowers is not playing up to his contract. And that it would hurt the team cap wise, to just cut him.

We paid a premium for what a shut down corner cost at the time and are not getting back the investment. The end, maybe our next investment will be a better one. Happens all the team in the NFL. A lot of teams have contracts like this.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:24 AM   #4
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Who the **** explains cash flow and shit to a 12 year old. Past your bed time anyway, jimmy.
You are like, the lamest dad ever.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:26 AM   #5
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You are like, the lamest dad ever.
That's it, no x box.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:27 AM   #6
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:35 AM   #7
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Brandon Flowers versus dead money - that really puzzled me.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:39 AM   #9
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As we all know, I am not a very smart person.

So in a recent thread, with Just Passin' By posted a link about Brandon Flowers' contract specifics (to answer the question "how much would we save against the cap if we cut Flowers"), I, of course, became flummoxed.

Here's the link.

So, I want you to pretend you're talking to your 12 year old son (I like to think of myself as ChiefsPlanet's 12 year old son, anyway):

What do these words mean?
  • Base Salary
  • Prorated Bonus
  • Roster Bonus
  • Workout Bonus
  • Other Bonus
  • Cap Number
  • Dead Money
  • Cap Savings
Also:
  • What's the difference between Cap Flow and Cash Flow?
  • What's a Cash Bonus?
  • What's a Cash Number?
  • What's Cash-To-Cash?
  • What the hell is on this page?
I thank you for your time.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:44 AM   #10
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As we all know, I am not a very smart person.

So in a recent thread, with Just Passin' By posted a link about Brandon Flowers' contract specifics (to answer the question "how much would we save against the cap if we cut Flowers"), I, of course, became flummoxed.

Here's the link.

So, I want you to pretend you're talking to your 12 year old son (I like to think of myself as ChiefsPlanet's 12 year old son, anyway):

What do these words mean?
http://overthecap.com/a-guide-to-the-nfl-salary-cap/
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:59 AM   #12
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I can't help you with your homework tonight, Direckshun. I gotta get to happy hour if I want to meet a special woman to make your cheating whore of a mother jealous. And we're running out of food in the house, so I'm going to hit the blackjack tables after that and see if I can't whip up a little money. Go see if Mrs. Higgins next door has some extra SpaghettiOs like she did last week. That can be your dinner.

If any creditors call, tell them the excuse about the IRS probing my employer. They haven't heard that one in a long time and may have forgotten about it.

You better be in bed when I get back or I'll lock you in the closet again.

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Old 01-20-2014, 01:02 AM   #13
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Looking at the first link:

In 2011 Brando Flowers signed a $49.35 M contract. Broken down as follows:

Signing bonus: $14M ($10M in 2011 + $4M in 2013)
Base salary: $28.1 M over 6 years
Roster bonuses: $6M ($2 M each in 20014-2016)
Work out bonuses: $1.25M ($250,000K in 2012-2016)

The signing bonus is given to Flowers at the time he signed in 2011. He got a second guaranteed installment of his signing bonus in 2013. The effect of a signing bonus on the salary cap is prorated over the length of the contract. However if you cut a player the effect of any remaining prorated bonuses are immediately applied to the cap in the year you cut the player.

The base salary is what the player gets payed for the NFL season if he is on the opening day roster. It isn't guaranteed money until he makes the roster. The base salary goes directly to the cap.

The roster bonus is usually paid in the Spring if he hasn't been released. It goes to the cap in that year.

Workout bonuses are paid if the player participates in off season workouts. It goes to the cap that year.

The cap number in any given year is the prorated signing bonus + base + roster + workout.

Dead money only applies if you cut a player. It is the salary cap hit related to the unpaid prorated bonus in the remaining years in the contract. For example, if we cut Flowers before the 2014 season, the prorated bonus for 2014, 2015, and 2016 ($3M + $3 + $1M = $7M) would count against the Chiefs 2014 salary cap, even though Flowers wasn't on the roster.

Cap savings is the difference in the cap number and dead money. Cap number is how much the player will count against the cap if you keep him and dead money is how much the player will count against the cap if you release him.

Cap flow is everything I explained above. It relates to the salary cap.

Cash flow is how much money comes out of Clark's wallet each year if Brandon Flowers is on the roster. Clark cares about this number. Sometimes he will elect not to participate in FA if his cash flow is bad in a given year.

That is the important stuff.
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:05 AM   #14
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As we all know, I am not a very smart person.

So in a recent thread, with Just Passin' By posted a link about Brandon Flowers' contract specifics (to answer the question "how much would we save against the cap if we cut Flowers"), I, of course, became flummoxed.

Here's the link.

So, I want you to pretend you're talking to your 12 year old son (I like to think of myself as ChiefsPlanet's 12 year old son, anyway):

What do these words mean?
  • Base Salary
  • Prorated Bonus
  • Roster Bonus
  • Workout Bonus
  • Other Bonus
  • Cap Number
  • Dead Money
  • Cap Savings
Also:
  • What's the difference between Cap Flow and Cash Flow?
  • What's a Cash Bonus?
  • What's a Cash Number?
  • What's Cash-To-Cash?
  • What the hell is on this page?
I thank you for your time.
An NFL contract basically consists of guaranteed money and non-guaranteed money.

Guaranteed money is the signing bonus. You earn that simply by signing the contract. Because this money is guaranteed, a team has to pay you that money. In order to make the contract more manageable under the salary cap, they will spread the signing bonus (or "prorate" the bonus) over X number of years. If you have a $10M signing bonus spread over 5 years, if you cut that player after year 1, they have to take an $8M hit on the cap. If you cut him in year 2, you take a $6M hit on the cap. Because you're paying for a player not on the roster, that's called dead money.

Non-guaranteed money means you have to earn it. Base salary is earned by playing in games. Roster bonuses are earned by making the roster. Workout bonuses are incentives to encourage players to work out in the offseason (because the players union limits mandatory workouts a team can hold). Other incentives can be earned if they make the pro bowl, etc.... If the team decides to cut you tomorrow, then you don't earn any of this money. Hence... non-guaranteed.



I don't know what the **** most of those other things are on the bottom of the list. If I'm explaining that to a 12 year old kid, I'd say "I don't know what the devil most of those other things are."
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Old 01-20-2014, 01:11 AM   #15
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Cash bonus is the same as signing bonus.

Cash number is the total cash out of Clark's wallet in a given year.

Cash to cap is just the ratio of (Cash out of Clark's wallet)/(salary cap hit).
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