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Old 01-20-2014, 10:46 AM   #1
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I still don't understand how he got such a contract at his age and his previous performance the year before...
If you look at how it was structured it was essentially a 1 year deal for $4.75M. There is no way he was ever going to see year 2 and 3 of that contract. We'll release him in the Spring and suffer the $2M in dead cap money in 2014 and be none the worse for it.

Even so, it was a horrible signing. Clark set fire to almost $5M. heh.
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:10 AM   #2
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If you look at how it was structured it was essentially a 1 year deal for $4.75M. There is no way he was ever going to see year 2 and 3 of that contract. We'll release him in the Spring and suffer the $2M in dead cap money in 2014 and be none the worse for it.

Even so, it was a horrible signing. Clark set fire to almost $5M. heh.
Yeah, that's why I get. He'd be gone by spring.. But that contract is terrible. Who would we actually been in competition with to sign him? Are what I worry about with Dorsey... Daniels, Robinson, Bowe... In that order they get worse...
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:15 AM   #3
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Yeah, that's why I get. He'd be gone by spring.. But that contract is terrible. Who would we actually been in competition with to sign him? Are what I worry about with Dorsey... Daniels, Robinson, Bowe... In that order they get worse...
He also gave Colquitt a 5 year, 19 million dollar deal.
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:19 AM   #4
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He also gave Colquitt a 5 year, 19 million dollar deal.
Yeah, I'm not intelligent enough to know if that's bad or not. To me, he's pretty ****ing amazing
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:24 AM   #5
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Yeah, that's why I get. He'd be gone by spring.. But that contract is terrible. Who would we actually been in competition with to sign him? Are what I worry about with Dorsey... Daniels, Robinson, Bowe... In that order they get worse...
You should leave a comment in the "Dorsey wins Executive of the Year" thread.

I made this same comment and got shredded for it. I like Dorsey's eye for talent, but as a negotiator... I'm not impressed with the contracts we handed out.
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:31 AM   #6
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You should leave a comment in the "Dorsey wins Executive of the Year" thread.

I made this same comment and got shredded for it. I like Dorsey's eye for talent, but as a negotiator... I'm not impressed with the contracts we handed out.
I'm hoping the contract issues is just a learning curve with him...
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Old 01-20-2014, 11:55 AM   #7
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Yeah, that's why I get. He'd be gone by spring.. But that contract is terrible. Who would we actually been in competition with to sign him? Are what I worry about with Dorsey... Daniels, Robinson, Bowe... In that order they get worse...
eh... 2-14 to 11-5/playoffs in a strong division. Not so worried about the $$. Players get overpaid all the time in the NFL. Dorsey did overpay for some, but he got players here and that's what this team needed.

Bowe's contract is bad, but there was no way to predict that he'd play that poorly after getting paid. It seems pretty obvious by his comments after the season that the FO talked to him about his performance. He said he's going to lose weight and work on his speed to better fit into this offense. Whether or not he follows thru is anyone's guess.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:04 PM   #8
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eh... 2-14 to 11-5/playoffs in a strong division. Not so worried about the $$. Players get overpaid all the time in the NFL. Dorsey did overpay for some, but he got players here and that's what this team needed.

Bowe's contract is bad, but there was no way to predict that he'd play that poorly after getting paid. It seems pretty obvious by his comments after the season that the FO talked to him about his performance. He said he's going to lose weight and work on his speed to better fit into this offense. Whether or not he follows thru is anyone's guess.
I'm not a big fan of this approach. How many times has this model actually worked? The best approach is to build from within and focus most of your cap dollars on keeping good players, instead of overpaying for other people's scraps.
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:10 PM   #9
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I'm not a big fan of this approach. How many times has this model actually worked? The best approach is to build from within and focus most of your cap dollars on keeping good players, instead of overpaying for other people's scraps.
Dorsey and Reid have both stated that they believe in building thru the draft. I think they did what they needed to do in order to eliminate the stench left by the last regime. Now that they have a year under their belt, I think you'll see more of an emphasis on the draft. (On a lesser note, they also had to give up picks to get the QB they wanted, so FA became even more of a necessity. Getting rid of Cassel may have been one of the best personnel moves in franchise...er...NFL history.)
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Old 01-20-2014, 12:29 PM   #10
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Dorsey and Reid have both stated that they believe in building thru the draft. I think they did what they needed to do in order to eliminate the stench left by the last regime. Now that they have a year under their belt, I think you'll see more of an emphasis on the draft. (On a lesser note, they also had to give up picks to get the QB they wanted, so FA became even more of a necessity. Getting rid of Cassel may have been one of the best personnel moves in franchise...er...NFL history.)
Yup. Fully agree.
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