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[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

Outside of Nolan DC is nothing but facepalm.

Compared to Marvel anyway.

Their straight to home release animated movies are very good. Theatre releases are shaky at best for their track record. Superman is a tough one to tackle because the bastard is invincible so it detracts from creating a real drama in my opinion. You can only play out the various methods of delivery of kryptonite story so much when we're talking about a series of movies.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Their straight to home release animated movies are very good. Theatre releases are shaky at best for their track record. Superman is a tough one to tackle because the bastard is invincible so it detracts from creating a real drama in my opinion. You can only play out the various methods of delivery of kryptonite story so much when we're talking about a series of movies.

This is only an issue for bad writers who need to crutch on mindless action scenes. There's so much you can do with Superman that has already been done. Read All Star Superman or At the End of Days, they will completely mind**** you.

In All Star, Lex tricks Superman into saving a space mission too close to the sun, over-radiating his cells which makes him more smart and powerful than ever but slowly kills him ala cancer. So right at the start both we and Supes knows he's going to die at the end. It basically becomes a "what would Superman do in his last few days of living?" type of episodic adventure and by the end he smashes atoms together with his fingers to create a universe in which there are no superheroes (our universe) so he could find out if the world would be okay without him. He also embeds himself into his own timeline so that he could see his dad once more before he dies.. it's incredible.

At the End of Days is just a fantastically nutty invasion story except it's a 5th dimensional creature invading Earth. Since time is the 4th dimension, he attacks the earth at all points in time simultaneously so he fights Superman throughout his entire life and defeats him in each instance except for the most current.. because since Superman's been fighting him his whole life, he already knows how to beat him

This is why I hate the whole Nolan/Snyder take on the DC Universe where they drag the characters down for the sake of "realism" and "grittyness." They don't need to be real or gritty to be interesting.. they're superheroes.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

This is only an issue for bad writers who need to crutch on mindless action scenes. There's so much you can do with Superman that has already been done. Read All Star Superman or At the End of Days, they will completely mind**** you.

In All Star, Lex tricks Superman into saving a space mission too close to the sun, over-radiating his cells which makes him more smart and powerful than ever but slowly kills him ala cancer. So right at the start both we and Supes knows he's going to die at the end. It basically becomes a "what would Superman do in his last few days of living?" type of episodic adventure and by the end he smashes atoms together with his fingers to create a universe in which there are no superheroes (our universe) so he could find out if the world would be okay without him. He also embeds himself into his own timeline so that he could see his dad once more before he dies.. it's incredible.

At the End of Days is just a fantastically nutty invasion story except it's a 5th dimensional creature invading Earth. Since time is the 4th dimension, he attacks the earth at all points in time simultaneously so he fights Superman throughout his entire life and defeats him in each instance except for the most current.. because since Superman's been fighting him his whole life, he already knows how to beat him

This is why I hate the whole Nolan/Snyder take on the DC Universe where they drag the characters down for the sake of "realism" and "grittyness." They don't need to be real or gritty to be interesting.. they're superheroes.

I think some of that you have to chalk up to the difference in mediums. Meanwhile...more Scarlett Johanssen as Black Widow. Yum.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I think some of that you have to chalk up to the difference in mediums. Meanwhile...more Scarlett Johanssen as Black Widow. Yum.

Shooting all her scenes for upcoming Marvel films now since she's preggo and before it shows.

That suit is going to explode in the chest after she's had her kid and her bust goes to "visible from space" levels!

No complaints from this side of the table, mind you.

[keg in kc]