"The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz ... will likely sign elsewhere."

[Direckshun]

So says the guy who runs draftinsider.net, Tony Pauline, talking to people all week at the Combine:

Kansas City Chiefs:

I'm told Branden Albert may not be the only veteran offensive lineman out the door in Kansas City. The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz, who received heavy interest at the combine, will likely sign elsewhere.

Follow Tony Pauline @TonyPauline.

He's also reporting the rumor that the Raiders want to try to re-sign McFadden, but they are unlikely to pull it off.

[Titty Meat]

Andy Reid was the guy who drafted a 28 year old guard in the first round and a backup right tackle first overall so he has no problem wasting first round picks.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

Direck isn't overreacting.

Lets breakdown the stupidity of letting Schwartz go.

First of all the offense made drastic improvements once Schwartz was inserted at guard. Its no coincidence that the teams highest scoring outputs were the games Fisher didnt play.

So now they are going to let their 2 best linemen go with a qb who's had injuries in the past and will presumably draft their replacements. Lets keep in mind this is the same failed strategy that got Andy fired and its not like Green Bay picked any o-linemen worth a shit in the first round either.

Schwartz has always been a productive player everywhere he's been. Not resigning him with 12 mil in capspace is ****ing stupid.

EXCELLENT post.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

Direck isn't overreacting.

Lets breakdown the stupidity of letting Schwartz go.

First of all the offense made drastic improvements once Schwartz was inserted at guard. Its no coincidence that the teams highest scoring outputs were the games Fisher didnt play.

So now they are going to let their 2 best linemen go with a qb who's had injuries in the past and will presumably draft their replacements. Lets keep in mind this is the same failed strategy that got Andy fired and its not like Green Bay picked any o-linemen worth a shit in the first round either.

Schwartz has always been a productive player everywhere he's been. Not resigning him with 12 mil in capspace is ****ing stupid.

He's over dramatic because we haven't even begun to resign our players yet. Look at last year.. We signed two key players and franchised Albert at the deadline. Between this and the constant worrying about cap space, it's a little ridiculous. Just let it all play out

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

He's over dramatic because we haven't even begun to resign our players yet. Look at last year.. We signed two key players and franchised Albert at the deadline. Between this and the constant worrying about cap space, it's a little ridiculous. Just let it all play out

Yeah, Heaven forbid we have some football discussion on a football message board...

EVERYBODY SHUT UP.

Just let things play out. We're gonna shut down Chiefsplanet until after the draft.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yeah, Heaven forbid we have some football discussion on a football message board...

EVERYBODY SHUT UP.

Just let things play out. We're gonna shut down Chiefsplanet until after the draft.

After the draft? That's not good enough for some people.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Urc Burry

He's over dramatic because we haven't even begun to resign our players yet. Look at last year.. We signed two key players and franchised Albert at the deadline. Between this and the constant worrying about cap space, it's a little ridiculous. Just let it all play out

They were able to sign Bowe at the deadline which allowed them to tag Albert but hindsight that Bowe contract was awful and they would have gotten a much needed comp pick in this draft.

Its a different situation this year. People have the right to be upset until a deal gets worked out and if it doesn't we all should be pissed and question what the regime is doing.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

They were able to sign Bowe at the deadline which allowed them to tag Albert but hindsight that Bowe contract was awful and they would have gotten a much needed comp pick in this draft.

Its a different situation this year. People have the right to be upset until a deal gets worked out and if it doesn't we all should be pissed and question what the regime is doing.

comp picks are more often than not worthless.

I don't understand why people always go OMG COMP PICK when a team wants to let a productive player walk.

[Jimmya]

It's football..... We are fans.... Let the discussions fire up!

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by hometeam

comp picks are more often than not worthless.

I don't understand why people always go OMG COMP PICK when a team wants to let a productive player walk.

Especially when next year's draft is going to be absolute dog**** compared to what can be had this year.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by hometeam

comp picks are more often than not worthless.

I don't understand why people always go OMG COMP PICK when a team wants to let a productive player walk.

Well, they're always at the ass-end of a round so if you get a 4 its really like getting a 5.

Honestly I doubt we could get even a 3rd for Albert. There's no point tagging him and he'll walk.

And people need to quit acting like each player lost = draft picks.

That's not how it works. There's some unknown formula that uses starters lost + players signed + value of players lost/signed to = a high pick (I think topping out at a 4th) or more than one lower round pick.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Especially when next year's draft is going to be absolute dog**** compared to what can be had this year.

That's why I wish we would have ignored the value chart and pushed for a trade down.

Lets say we let ourselves get low balled. For the sake of argument let's say we swapped the no 1 for the no 24 and all we got in return was a no 2 last year and no 2 this year.

I would have taken that in a heartbeat. That would offset the Smith trade and give us a no 2 this year in a deep draft...

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Rausch

That's why I wish we would have ignored the value chart and pushed for a trade down.

Lets say we let ourselves get low balled. For the sake of argument let's say we swapped the no 1 for the no 24 and all we got in return was a no 2 last year and no 2 this year.

I would have taken that in a heartbeat. That would offset the Smith trade and give us a no 2 this year in a deep draft...

To be honest, I would be completely fine with giving up our 1st pick next year for a low 2nd this year. I fully expect us to make the play-offs again.

A 2nd this year will be better than having a late 1st next year, that's how deep this draft is.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

To be honest, I would be completely fine with giving up our 1st pick next year for a low 2nd this year. I fully expect us to make the play-offs again.

I don't see how we finish better than 9-7 after playing 8 playoff teams...

Originally Posted by OldSchool

A 2nd this year will be better than having a late 1st next year, that's how deep this draft is.

I don't think we'll pick after 16 next year...

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I don't see how we finish better than 9-7 after playing 8 playoff teams...



I don't think we'll pick after 16 next year...

I forgot who said it, may have been Mayock, but they said that there were at least 45 players in this year's draft who he would give a 1st round grade to. Think about that and also consider the fact that there was a record number of underclassmen who came out this year, meaning that the senior class next year has been sapped of a lot of talent.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

I forgot who said it, may have been Mayock, but they said that there were at least 45 players in this year's draft who he would give a 1st round grade to. Think about that and also consider the fact that there was a record number of underclassmen who came out this year, meaning that the senior class next year has been sapped of a lot of talent.

Doesn't have to but I'm sure this year will be much better than next year.

I still wouldn't trade the future for this draft. If anything we needed to trade down last year to build for the future...